OPJan 22, 2021·1 reply
MangoBen Davis has done a number of MCU films including Captain Marvel, Doctor Strange, and Guardians of the Galaxy. Strange and Guardians were both lauded for their visuals from what I recall.
He's also been DP for Martin McDonagh (Seven Psychopaths, Three Billboards), Clint Eastwood (Cry Macho), and Matthew Vaughn (Stardust, Kick Ass, Layer Cake).
I think the problem is just that these films are corporate cinema. They are very samey and uniform and safe. That have a formula and are sticking to it. Even minor breaks from it are lauded. I think they're fine for what they are.
Ang Lee was maybe the most ambitious director yet in making a mainstream comic book movie with Hulk (2003). It was very comic-like in its composition and editing with picture-in-picture and split panels and such. There are still better MCU films. I definitely prefer Winter Soldier to it for just being a dumb 1990s spy thriller. Sam Raimi's Spider-Man is still the gold standard though. That trilogy fell apart the moment the studio intervened and forced the third to be a bloated mess.
Also, Zach Snyder movies look like dogshit.
Lbr tho, does Ben Davis’ work on his MCU films look as good as his films like Layer Cake or Three Billboards?
Jan 22, 2021
RosebudThey look bland
They feel bland
They're told blandzero risks. Zero artistic choices. Zero soul
the MCU is glorified made by committee toy commercials
real
Jan 22, 2021·1 replyNeymar_stan_accounHow dare people like things I dont
not like he’s wrong tho and i like the mcu
Jan 22, 2021·1 replyYeah overall they’re very dry and flat. Thor Ragnarok had some amazing shots though.
Jan 22, 2021UndisclosedYeah overall they’re very dry and flat. Thor Ragnarok had some amazing shots though.
this is true
- OPJan 22, 2021·2 replies
To clarify I personally can’t stand the look of Zack Snyder films lol. I’m just talking about how a lot of us film geeks look at it
Jan 22, 2021·2 repliesRagnarok probably has some of the best shots in the MCU, but that’s kinda it
- Jan 22, 2021BRAVE
To clarify I personally can’t stand the look of Zack Snyder films lol. I’m just talking about how a lot of us film geeks look at it
Jan 22, 2021·1 replyIt's cause they make them look too politically correct
- Jan 22, 2021JJThaJuiceman
Ragnarok probably has some of the best shots in the MCU, but that’s kinda it
- Jan 22, 2021·1 reply
Snyders visual aesthetic has so much more style and creativity than the MCU
and frankly more than most of what comes out of Hollywood these days.
- Jan 22, 2021·1 reply
like imagine actually hating on any of this
- Jan 22, 2021
Ragnorak and Guardians 2 are the MCU films with good cinematography.
- OPJan 22, 2021·1 reply
It’s so many franchises and films way worse than even the most mid MCU films that the most common MCU criticisms apply to...yet the hate isn’t as passionate? We can pretend like the filmmaking itself has no bearing on how we perceive the merit of films, but it’s not true
- Jan 22, 2021JJThaJuiceman
Ragnarok probably has some of the best shots in the MCU, but that’s kinda it
funny enough even ragnarok was a bland film, colors don’t pop
- Jan 22, 2021·2 repliesdadye
not like he’s wrong tho and i like the mcu
So there's no soul the MCU when its godfather is one of the most passionate people ever about his work and in his love and respect towards the source material? Lets also not about the huge risk they took with the idea of building a series of interconnected movies led by B, C and D tier characters focusing on slow world building (for over 10 years) and culminating in one single large event.
- Jan 22, 2021·1 replyNeymar_stan_accoun
So there's no soul the MCU when its godfather is one of the most passionate people ever about his work and in his love and respect towards the source material? Lets also not about the huge risk they took with the idea of building a series of interconnected movies led by B, C and D tier characters focusing on slow world building (for over 10 years) and culminating in one single large event.
lool fam?
- Jan 22, 2021BRAVE
It’s so many franchises and films way worse than even the most mid MCU films that the most common MCU criticisms apply to...yet the hate isn’t as passionate? We can pretend like the filmmaking itself has no bearing on how we perceive the merit of films, but it’s not true
I blame the MCU for why the quality of most of what is made is lazy
the MCU has set a formula that others are just copying
Nobody wants to do original and ambitious projects like LOTR, The Matrix, Pirates of the Caribbean, anymore
Its just about taking a loved franchise and making it as safe and generic as possible in the hopes of establishing a cinematic universe someday.
- OPJan 22, 2021·2 repliesRosebud
Snyders visual aesthetic has so much more style and creativity than the MCU
and frankly more than most of what comes out of Hollywood these days.
Snyders visual aesthetic has so much more style and creativity than the MCU
Yet worse acting, characters, dialogue, plots, stories etc...see where I’m going?
- Jan 22, 2021·1 reply
we’re talking about the overall look and feel of the movies and he’s telling me about the nigga who runs the franchise
- Jan 22, 2021dadye
lool fam?
Nah im just palying with that gif based on your avi lol.
Didnt mean to antagonize you or anybody else itt. 
Jan 22, 2021·1 replyAnd before people bring up Ragnorak and Thor 3, its not about just being colorful
- Jan 22, 2021
Look at the levels and richness in the contrast in that Spiderman 2 screenshot
Nessy 🦎Jan 22, 2021·1 replyabsence of black and cgi characters over cgi background will do that
- Jan 22, 2021·1 replydadye
we’re talking about the overall look and feel of the movies and he’s telling me about the nigga who runs the franchise
No the original post was me replying to one user who said that the MCU has 0 risk or heart in them. He definitely was not talking about only the cinematography in his post.