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  • Dec 5, 2023
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    insertcoolnamehere

    The street rap women have a thing called charisma and personality

    All the street niggas be too hard ( )

    Kevin Gates doesn't have a personality? Kevin Gates has more hits than a lot of your favorite rappers. He was never lauded by the poptimists and he rapped his ass off as well.

    I don't think people want reminded of street violence at all. They'll say it encourages it, but if you replace it with p**** it's all good. Then they'll say the p**** rap doesn't encourage risky behavior or effect children. Which is it? I'm consistent on this issue. Not many are.

  • Dec 5, 2023

    anyone disagreeing with his score hates black women fr

  • Dec 5, 2023

    How could you not. Album is undeniably hard

  • Dec 5, 2023
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    Block Muteson

    Kevin Gates doesn't have a personality? Kevin Gates has more hits than a lot of your favorite rappers. He was never lauded by the poptimists and he rapped his ass off as well.

    I don't think people want reminded of street violence at all. They'll say it encourages it, but if you replace it with p**** it's all good. Then they'll say the p**** rap doesn't encourage risky behavior or effect children. Which is it? I'm consistent on this issue. Not many are.

    So female rappers can’t rap about their p**** but male rappers are allowed to rap about their d***s as well as women’s pussies?

    Y’all act like male rappers are preaching abstinence in their verses

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  • Dec 5, 2023
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    shaleirose

    So female rappers can’t rap about their p**** but male rappers are allowed to rap about their d***s as well as women’s pussies?

    Y’all act like male rappers are preaching abstinence in their verses

    Please read what I said again. I said take or leave both

    Apparently it's empowering to rap about being a s*** but not to make money off of being born in a violent ghetto!

    Fantano is the exact kind of prude to never entertain violent street rap made after like 2005

  • Dec 5, 2023
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    the outrage over this actually gonna make me check out the album

  • Dec 5, 2023
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    Block Muteson

    Please read what I said again. I said take or leave both

    Apparently it's empowering to rap about being a s*** but not to make money off of being born in a violent ghetto!

    Fantano is the exact kind of prude to never entertain violent street rap made after like 2005

    But society has been taking male rap subject matter for decades.

    I think objectively speaking, rapping about murder and violence and killing is a much more harmful thing than rapping about sex. But I also understand that it’s all entertainment so it shouldn’t be taken as reality.

    Also I think people worrying about children hearing these songs are completely out of line with reality because growing up, we heard some pretty vulgar songs as well, it’s literally just music.

    EDIT: Just saw your edit. The reason female rappers talking about s***so openly is seen as empowering is because we’ve had decades of male rappers talking about women as mostly sexual objects, so now that the women are reclaiming it themselves it’s seen as empowering

  • Dec 5, 2023
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    shaleirose

    But society has been taking male rap subject matter for decades.

    I think objectively speaking, rapping about murder and violence and killing is a much more harmful thing than rapping about sex. But I also understand that it’s all entertainment so it shouldn’t be taken as reality.

    Also I think people worrying about children hearing these songs are completely out of line with reality because growing up, we heard some pretty vulgar songs as well, it’s literally just music.

    EDIT: Just saw your edit. The reason female rappers talking about s***so openly is seen as empowering is because we’ve had decades of male rappers talking about women as mostly sexual objects, so now that the women are reclaiming it themselves it’s seen as empowering

    Every video game is about shooting humans in the head. The racialized component of rap is the only reason it gets treated like this

  • Dec 5, 2023
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    Free YoungBoy

    He is right in that some of it feels very performative though

    Like people saying women are carrying rap and then pointing to s*** like ice spice and city girls

    did Ice Spice not carry the year?

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    did Ice Spice not carry the year?

    She did I can’t even lie lol

  • Dec 5, 2023
    JeffersonSteelflex

    but i’m not talking about just here

    i’m not talking about here i’m talking about twitter/youtube etc.

    i meant “you must be new here” as in you must be new to the reaction of his reviews lol

  • Dec 5, 2023
    Block Muteson

    Every video game is about shooting humans in the head. The racialized component of rap is the only reason it gets treated like this

    I agree, I’m saying I don’t think music should be judged so harshly because it’s entertainment and not reality.

    But there are people who listen to music in an attempt to relate to the lyrics so from that point of view, there are many people who would prefer not to hear lyrics about killing and violence. I don’t agree with those people but I understand where they’re coming from.

    Also, violent video games have literally been used as the scapegoat for decades for violent crimes that have happened in real life

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    shaleirose

    But society has been taking male rap subject matter for decades.

    I think objectively speaking, rapping about murder and violence and killing is a much more harmful thing than rapping about sex. But I also understand that it’s all entertainment so it shouldn’t be taken as reality.

    Also I think people worrying about children hearing these songs are completely out of line with reality because growing up, we heard some pretty vulgar songs as well, it’s literally just music.

    EDIT: Just saw your edit. The reason female rappers talking about s***so openly is seen as empowering is because we’ve had decades of male rappers talking about women as mostly sexual objects, so now that the women are reclaiming it themselves it’s seen as empowering

    There have always been female rappers. I grew up with 5 sisters in the mini van listening to Salt N Pepa flipping samples of established songs into hit records. I was listening to Three 6 Mafia. I was listening to The Firm. I was listening to The Fugees

    The only difference is now it's merged with influencer status and triggers the outrage algorithm that makes things popular. It's no deeper than that.

    I'm just asking for the same leeway for gangsta rap made after 2005! I swear anything before that can be violent and appraised critically

  • SinceKumbaya

    Before seeing this I was just going to make a thread asking why these pretentious reviewers like Fantano / Pitchfork seem to over rate the current batch of female rappers. Judged a lot less harshly than male counterparts

    I like Sexyy but Fantano will act like Meg Stallion a great artist but Drake and Future are wack for example

    Is it to look like he supports black women or some s*** ?

    they are scared to get called racist and sexist

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    There have always been female rappers. I grew up with 5 sisters in the mini van listening to Salt N Pepa flipping samples of established songs into hit records. I was listening to Three 6 Mafia. I was listening to The Firm. I was listening to The Fugees

    The only difference is now it's merged with influencer status and triggers the outrage algorithm that makes things popular. It's no deeper than that.

    I'm just asking for the same leeway for gangsta rap made after 2005! I swear anything before that can be violent and appraised critically

    We’ve never had a time period in rap where female rap was as normalized and at the forefront as it is now though. It’s still male dominated, but now we have a legit crop of new female rap artists who all have respectable fanbases

  • Dec 5, 2023
    Niggamortis

    I mean it’s literally a good project lol.

    Just stop caring about his opinion on things.

  • Dec 5, 2023
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    shaleirose

    We’ve never had a time period in rap where female rap was as normalized and at the forefront as it is now though. It’s still male dominated, but now we have a legit crop of new female rap artists who all have respectable fanbases

    That's awesome and also not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the people who would never listen to Sauce Walka unless he had a p****

  • Dec 5, 2023
    Block Muteson

    That's awesome and also not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the people who would never listen to Sauce Walka unless he had a p****

    Well yes. The same way there are men out there who don’t feel comfortable listening to female rappers, there are women out there who don’t prefer listening to male rappers

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    Fantano needs tune in to Lola Brooke tbh

  • Dec 5, 2023
    Not Like Josuke

    Glad hip hop's number one authority on black music is praising this

  • Dec 5, 2023
    Mac Wit Da Cheese
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    Fantano needs tune in to Lola Brooke tbh

    !https://youtu.be/D5r7dLtEfMg?si=IgIlaWtx26MmLlwH

    yeah he should, dope album

  • Dec 5, 2023
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    Prosper

    I'll never understand it. It's literally just a guys opinion.

    You purposely ignoring the fact that "its just a guy's opinion" yet here we are in this thread of 6 pages discussing that opinion. While people on Twitter are also arguing about it. Whether we like it or not and whether it's right or not, the reality is that he has an influence over peoples perceptions of projects as a critic.

  • Dec 5, 2023
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    Valentine

    His wife is literally black

    They're divorced apparently

  • Dec 5, 2023
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    etuev

    You purposely ignoring the fact that "its just a guy's opinion" yet here we are in this thread of 6 pages discussing that opinion. While people on Twitter are also arguing about it. Whether we like it or not and whether it's right or not, the reality is that he has an influence over peoples perceptions of projects as a critic.

    Yeah I don’t like how he’s seen as some authority on black music. Even if that’s not what he set out to be or aims to be, people on the internet and his fanbase definitely treat him as if that’s the case and I don’t like that at all

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