Malcolm

5y

Why should it be someone elses responsible to go babysit a grown ass man that doesn't want to be helped lol. at this point it's on kanye to realize he needs help and to reach out to people.

Malcolm

5y

why did uzi even care that much about tyler's opinion lmao. out of everyone he could have listened to he picked the guy who's never produced a hit record or album for another artist. tyler's taste in music is dusty as f*** too for the most part so what the f*** does he know about uzi's type of music lmao.

theshen

5y

Yup honestly at this point Kanye should have enough self awareness to realize this is his work style. I feel like this is just the way he works whether it’s on music, clothes, shoes or anything else he designs. It’s chaotic and hectic af but having that alienate his best co producers And other ppl on his team is not it…

Great leaders understand how to adapt to the people and circumstances around them

WESLEYS THEORY

5y

Cudi was great on Moon, you bugging.

Yachty...yeah Ye imma need you to delete that verse

Malcolm

5y

Kanye is more like a boss at amazon than a leader lmao

Malcolm

5y

Kanye is more like a boss at amazon than a leader lmao

Malcolm

5y

Kanye is more like a boss at amazon than a leader lmao

Malcolm

5y

Kanye is more like a boss at amazon than a leader lmao

fashion killa

5y

agreed

the people's opinion tends to be really stupid.

great example of this is the dichotomy of uzi and carti

uzi let the fans dictate EA, even had them choose the cover art and which songs were on the deluxe. He let tyler's opinion DRAMATICALLY affect the album even though tyler has no business in uzi's lane. and he dropped a wholly mid-tier album (and this is coming from someone who believes uzi never released a sub-par project before then)

Carti didnt give a s*** what his fans said and only put two of the many leaks fans wanted on his album. And while that received plenty of initial backlash, it's become a massive critical success since and is widely regarded as an overall great album.

fashion killa

5y

most definitely.

mbdtf was a beautiful merging of powerful features.

donda is just a bizarre mix of random rappers that someone probably played kanye or he heard about on twitter. I think a lot of it just has to do w him getting old. Kanye has said on record that he doesn't keep up with rap. he doesn't listen to modern hip hop. and that's fine, because he's never really tried to make modern rap, he always just does what he likes. for a long time, whatever he did became modern rap. When he put together the feature list on mbdtf it was a bunch of artist who came up with or around him, and people who's music he was genuinely a big fan of.

the sense i get w donda is that kanye said "i'm gonna make christian music cool. I'm gonna put christianity into cool rap songs" and then realized he doesn't know what "cool rap songs" even means. It seems like he grabbed a bunch of guys who he heard were popular with the kids and threw them on whatever tracks he felt like. This time around it really doesn't seem like there's a deep connection with most of the features at all. I really doubt Kanye and Lil Durk are close outside of the recording studio.

Honestly this keeps going with the beats. I think Kanye has picked up that short zaytoven style 808s are popular now, but hasn't realized how important drumkits are in this digital age. You need the right hats claps snares etc to make a good beat. when it's homebrewed stuff it has to be either really well done or really unique, otherwise it just sounds cheap and off brand. and that's exactly what's happened with so many of these beats, the 808s especially. For all my producer people out there, I think most of the donda beats sound like attempts at modern instrumentals made with only stock sounds. It doesn't sound like one (or even a few) producers coherent vision, it sounds like a product of session musicians and a bunch of inexperienced producers. while im at it, this is exactly why I hate take a daytrip's production, it just sounds like a lab made imitation of what real production is.

fashion killa

5y

agreed

the people's opinion tends to be really stupid.

great example of this is the dichotomy of uzi and carti

uzi let the fans dictate EA, even had them choose the cover art and which songs were on the deluxe. He let tyler's opinion DRAMATICALLY affect the album even though tyler has no business in uzi's lane. and he dropped a wholly mid-tier album (and this is coming from someone who believes uzi never released a sub-par project before then)

Carti didnt give a s*** what his fans said and only put two of the many leaks fans wanted on his album. And while that received plenty of initial backlash, it's become a massive critical success since and is widely regarded as an overall great album.

fashion killa

5y

most definitely.

mbdtf was a beautiful merging of powerful features.

donda is just a bizarre mix of random rappers that someone probably played kanye or he heard about on twitter. I think a lot of it just has to do w him getting old. Kanye has said on record that he doesn't keep up with rap. he doesn't listen to modern hip hop. and that's fine, because he's never really tried to make modern rap, he always just does what he likes. for a long time, whatever he did became modern rap. When he put together the feature list on mbdtf it was a bunch of artist who came up with or around him, and people who's music he was genuinely a big fan of.

the sense i get w donda is that kanye said "i'm gonna make christian music cool. I'm gonna put christianity into cool rap songs" and then realized he doesn't know what "cool rap songs" even means. It seems like he grabbed a bunch of guys who he heard were popular with the kids and threw them on whatever tracks he felt like. This time around it really doesn't seem like there's a deep connection with most of the features at all. I really doubt Kanye and Lil Durk are close outside of the recording studio.

Honestly this keeps going with the beats. I think Kanye has picked up that short zaytoven style 808s are popular now, but hasn't realized how important drumkits are in this digital age. You need the right hats claps snares etc to make a good beat. when it's homebrewed stuff it has to be either really well done or really unique, otherwise it just sounds cheap and off brand. and that's exactly what's happened with so many of these beats, the 808s especially. For all my producer people out there, I think most of the donda beats sound like attempts at modern instrumentals made with only stock sounds. It doesn't sound like one (or even a few) producers coherent vision, it sounds like a product of session musicians and a bunch of inexperienced producers. while im at it, this is exactly why I hate take a daytrip's production, it just sounds like a lab made imitation of what real production is.

YANDHI

5y

this is kinda seeming to be more about the time conflict with Mike Deans show next weekend more than anything. Mike can't work on the album rn and has other albums to do and a string of shows he's been promoting for a while now

feel like 90% of the posts here are gonna turn out to be useless discussion and fan fiction

coolguy12

5y

ya we dont know what version of eternal atake tyler heard. It might have been ass. There was multiple versions of that album im p sure

Bill

5y

I really give a lot of credit to the engineers who have to make miracles happen in short span to make the albums work. Think the Uzi parallel was also very clear cause EA originally had way more skits and bridges between parts that K Lee had to cut down significantly before release and make it all flow and she was working 24/7 for a whole week to fix it. Then Uzi rushed out the deluxe before she had a chance to mix all the old tracks and even eventually did have a version where she mixed them all but it never released due to COVID. Mike Dean is literally fixing this album that was clearly no where near done and the pressures been on for weeks to make it work so I don’t blame him for wanting out.