Sorry I honestly forgot about that song

Good night

You’re missing my point
Second week radio play doesn’t exist for any song unless they have a radio deal which very few songs have
Maybe his lack of radio play matters in the 4th or 5th week but the first few weeks if he’s debuting high he should be able to hold it like other songs can despite the lack of radio

His songs are not radio friendly either

On top of that dude is signed to a label say what you want about him being blackballed but the guy who runs the labels father is the most powerful man in the music industry

It’s counterintuitive to think the entire industry has it out for him when he’s part of the industry and his success helps line their pockets

Agree it’s a f***ing mess

Remixes have to go
Radio needs to go
4 copies 1 card has to go
Selling physicals that ship 9 months later has to go

if spotify/am actually put his songs in playlists (and radio) like they do with other songs that are popping then its chart position after the 1st week would be very different

but they dont, thats why it drops after the initial week because after the 1st week, sales drop (understandably)

Oh I see this makes more sense now, thanks for the info & who’s the label owner ? To my knowledge David Geffen is currently the most powerful man in the industry both music & Hollywood

So why do they debut so high? If people genuinely like the music why do they stop listening to it

Eliot grainge son of Lucian grainge who runs UMG

Honestly I don’t know much about Geffen but Grainge generally tops out billboards power list

David Geffan might be more powerful, I’m a huge MJ stan so I know, he’s one of the powers that be that orchestrated the assault on MJ’s career & legacy from behind the shadows

He’s very very very dangerous & he runs the music industry, movies & even controls politics to a certain degree

He’s also buddy buddy with powerhouses like Oprah, Clinton, Weinstein & a lot of powerful people

Do some research on him, trust me

Roger that

Definitely wouldn’t surprise me at all Grainge is the CEO and public face but he’s not necessarily the person influencing some of the decisions

i dont care if it got 60m streams from spotify alone and 0 on every other platform, or 60m on am and 0 on the rest, or 60m on youtube and 0 on the rest.

60m streams is 60m streams- thats what billboard credited at and thats what it got

Anyone know about a Youtube partner program Roddy Ricch was involved in? I remember reading a billboard article about how that's Roddy Ricch grew his brand. It was with some label exec, I forgot who.

sales maybe? how often do you buy a single 2/3/4 weeks after its release?

That’s not how it works

Paid platform streams are worth significantly more because they’re paid so they generate more revenue and they’re harder to manipulate as a result

Getting 55m streams is cool but if the majority are from platforms that don’t count as much it’s not the equivalent of a 40m streaming week where the majority is Apple Music and paid Spotify subs

nvm found it. Really great article

billboard.com/articles/columns/hip-hop/8550811/roddy-ricch-the-box-youtube-music-interview

Youtube is the future and for good reason. Its recommendation system is so direct, it has the biggest audience of any streaming platform, and is literally handed to android users.

6ix9ine haters are the saddest people

Lol bro
Stop acting obtuse
The vast vast vast majority of people who consume pure sales are not even close to the target audience for this music
Look at the top pure sales artists it’s country, it’s conventional pop, etc
The sales he gets are purely for chart purposes
Sure they might be fans and sure it’s impressive but they’re buying it for chart position

Like y’all wouldn’t be so annoying if you could just admit that the guy cares more about chart position than creating a Hit song that deserves to be a hit. Pure sales drop off the week after because after a credit card has bought a song 4 times subsequent copies don’t count. Streams drop off because the majority come from YouTube and videos don’t get sustained viewership and paid streams fall off because the music isn’t good. Sure radio doesn’t happen maybe he’s blackballed to an extent but GOOBA is not a song that would ever get significant radio play even if it stuck at #1

The one thing I’ll happily admit is that he’s losing some streams from lack of playlist placement. Maybe it’s blackballing or maybe the label is choosing to put that money elsewhere

YouTube is a really great way to build an audience

The difficulty is getting that audience to move from consuming your music there to consuming it on streaming or buying it

It’s where YB has struggled particularly

Crazy how Billboard has so many rules and regulations for streaming and not sales. Why are ad-supported streams and paid on-demand streams weighted so drastically but a $0.69 single and a $1.30 single weighted the same?

Lil Baby has been changing that tbh. The HDD article last week about him being #1 credited it to how they released a ton of music videos.

hes smart
cultivated an audience on YouTube originally

then used the drake feature, drip too hard and etc to build almost a separate streaming fanbase

and then now hes maximizing both w the videos and the streams

im talking about how many streams he was actually credited for by billboard....

it counting as much is irrelevant because i gave the actual figure that counted.... not the figure that includes the streams that 'dont count'

Because there’s way more politicing involved with the charts, labels & executives manipulate the charts so they can market their artists as the “ hot new sensation “

It makes them seem more popping than they actually are

BB doesn’t seem to care about their broken algorithm because they comfortable knowing they’ve monopolized chart entries due to lack of competition or they’re being bribed by executives to overlook the loop holes

Huh?

That figure is ignoring how the streams are weighted

Yup this is the problem

It’s why radio has persisted

Billboard is a label tool at the end of the day