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    ARCADE GOON

    Major western services. China for example doesn't use any of our music infrastructure. Many countries don't give a s*** about music piracy. And so on. But even having the western countries will be good enough.

    Anghami is a pretty huge service. They’ll probably use their data too.
    Well, if a country doesn’t care about music piracy, then they shouldn’t be included. And China is unreliable so no loss there.
    Having Spotify, AM, Youtube, anghami etc... on board is a pretty good start.

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    If what I posted last page is true, it ignores countries in places such as Asia which by far use their own domestic streaming platform a lot more over spotify/am

    essentially becoming the Europe, Australia & US chart

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    If what I posted last page is true, it ignores countries in places such as Asia which by far use their own domestic streaming platform a lot more over spotify/am

    essentially becoming the Europe, Australia & US chart

    yup

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    DEL_245

    If what I posted last page is true, it ignores countries in places such as Asia which by far use their own domestic streaming platform a lot more over spotify/am

    essentially becoming the Europe, Australia & US chart

    physical sales are pretty huge in Africa, but there’s no way of tracking that.
    The chart will continue to improve year after year. You cant expect it to be flawless at the launch. That’s extremely unrealistic.
    Now hopefully this will encourage some countries to be better and more reliable with how they track music consumption.

    Either way, I dont see why would anyone oppose to this. This is great.

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    physical sales are pretty huge in Africa, but there’s no way of tracking that.
    The chart will continue to improve year after year. You cant expect it to be flawless at the launch. That’s extremely unrealistic.
    Now hopefully this will encourage some countries to be better and more reliable with how they track music consumption.

    Either way, I dont see why would anyone oppose to this. This is great.

    I mean I like it and I think it's a good idea in theory, it's just not entirely reflective on what's popular globally when you take into account how popular domestic streaming platforms are places such as the East, especially in SEA.

    I agree that this will likely be improved as time goes on though and I 100% think it's a good idea.

  • Sep 14, 2020

    SEA uses Youtube a lot though so at least there's that

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    psychedelic

    Anghami is a pretty huge service. They’ll probably use their data too.
    Well, if a country doesn’t care about music piracy, then they shouldn’t be included. And China is unreliable so no loss there.
    Having Spotify, AM, Youtube, anghami etc... on board is a pretty good start.

    No loss? It's 1.4 billion people. You shouldn't call it a world chart then Same goes for India, another billion.

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    ARCADE GOON

    No loss? It's 1.4 billion people. You shouldn't call it a world chart then Same goes for India, another billion.

    yeah India is another big one effected by this

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    it's gonna be a very interesting chart to watch, no radio will make it fast paced

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    DEL_245

    yeah India is another big one effected by this

    Not to be discriminatory but for what an ideal global chart is I don't think its bad that India (or china) would in theory be effectively excluded because its population sizes and hyper local taste would distort a 'global' chart

    For example dancehall, reggaeton and k-pop are no longer tied to the local cultures they originated from or just enjoyed near exclusively by the communities they were initially created by.
    They have become globally enjoyed genres, who have 'fans' who don't have any cultural ties to where the music comes from. So it would be great to see how songs popularities across different countries translates to global 'overall' popularity.

    But with Chinese and bollywood music is near enough not known by anyone outside of those cultures (well maybe it is asia but no in Europe or the Americas). It be very hard to gauge the popularity of the music 'globally' when 2 billion peoples hyper localised taste would distort any form of comparative a***ysis. Any hit in India would be a number one 'global' hit, which isn't really useful when the rest of the world has no idea what the song is

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    KEYS

    Not to be discriminatory but for what an ideal global chart is I don't think its bad that India (or china) would in theory be effectively excluded because its population sizes and hyper local taste would distort a 'global' chart

    For example dancehall, reggaeton and k-pop are no longer tied to the local cultures they originated from or just enjoyed near exclusively by the communities they were initially created by.
    They have become globally enjoyed genres, who have 'fans' who don't have any cultural ties to where the music comes from. So it would be great to see how songs popularities across different countries translates to global 'overall' popularity.

    But with Chinese and bollywood music is near enough not known by anyone outside of those cultures (well maybe it is asia but no in Europe or the Americas). It be very hard to gauge the popularity of the music 'globally' when 2 billion peoples hyper localised taste would distort any form of comparative a***ysis. Any hit in India would be a number one 'global' hit, which isn't really useful when the rest of the world has no idea what the song is

    I can see that pov for sure

    I suppose there’s no true way to have the best possible reflection of what’s popular globally, I mean the hot 100 itself is far from perfect so I’ll accept it for what it is.

    They can always improve it later down the line anyway.

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    Will JB have enough juice to debut #1? Charts are pretty strong rn

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    Vietbrah
    https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1305514726030442496

    Will JB have enough juice to debut #1? Charts are pretty strong rn

    Nah, it’ll def go top 10 though

  • Sep 14, 2020

    I'm very interested in seeing what the whole top 200 looks like

  • Sep 14, 2020
    DEL_245
    https://twitter.com/chartdata/status/1305483702932254720

    Holy s*** maluma and blackpink

  • Sep 14, 2020

    Bieber gonna push out BL out of the top 5 record

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    Vietbrah
    https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1305514726030442496

    Will JB have enough juice to debut #1? Charts are pretty strong rn

    With chance? Maybe in another lifetime

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    https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1305514726030442496

    Will JB have enough juice to debut #1? Charts are pretty strong rn

    Is this gonna be another Christian track?

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    WAP remix. Meg may not like it.

  • Sep 14, 2020
    Danhust

    WAP remix. Meg may not like it.

    !https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=602hOWItcec

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    Vietbrah
    https://twitter.com/PopCrave/status/1305514726030442496

    Will JB have enough juice to debut #1? Charts are pretty strong rn

    Maybe with a Nicki feat

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    Danhust

    Maybe with a Nicki feat

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    Leif_Erikson92

    Nicki has the pure sales Barbz stimulus.

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