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  • nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-will-consider-challenges-affirmative-action-harvard-unc-admissions-n1287915

    Jan. 24, 2022, 2:47 PM UTC / Updated Jan. 24, 2022, 2:59 PM UTC
    By Pete Williams
    WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court agreed Monday to hear challenges to the admissions process at Harvard and the University of North Carolina, presenting the most serious threat in decades to the use of affirmative action by the nation's public and private colleges and universities.

    Despite similar challenges, the court has repeatedly upheld affirmative action in the past. But two liberal justices who were key to those decisions are gone — Anthony Kennedy and Ruth Bader Ginsburg. Their replacements, Trump appointees Brett Kavanaugh and Amy Coney Barrett, are conservative and considered less likely to find the practice constitutional.

    In the latest case, groups backed by a longtime opponent of affirmative action, Edward Blum of Maine, sued Harvard and UNC in federal court, claiming that Harvard's undergraduate admissions system discriminated against Asian American students and that UNC's discriminated against both Asian American and white students. Lower courts ruled that the schools' limited consideration of race was a legitimate effort to achieve a more diverse student body.

    The lawsuits were targeted to challenge the admissions process at both a private and a public university.

    The Supreme Court has long barred racial quotas in admissions. But it has allowed schools to consider a student's race to be one "plus factor" among many other qualities, provided the admissions process looks at the overall qualifications of applicants and uses race no more than necessary to achieve a level of diversity.

    The challengers in both cases, Students for Fair Admissions, urged the justices to overrule the court’s 2003 decision on affirmative action, which upheld the University of Michigan's use of race as a plus factor and served as a model for similar admissions programs nationwide.

    That decision "endorsed racial objectives that are amorphous and unmeasurable," the challengers said in asking the Supreme Court to take their appeal. The Constitution requires equal protection and contains no exceptions, they said, contending that Harvard admits Asian Americans at lower rates than whites and values Black or Hispanic ethnicity more highly.

    "If a university wants to admit students with certain experiences (say, overcoming discrimination), then it can evaluate whether individual applicants have that experience," their brief said. "It cannot simply use race as a proxy for certain experiences or views."

    If the Supreme Court did overrule its 2003 precedent, affirmative action programs would be in serious jeopardy nationwide.

    "Mandating race-blind admissions programs would undermine those universities' ability to engage in the kind of individualized review that yields a class that is both diverse and excellent," Harvard's lawyers told the court.

    They said the university pursues many kinds of diversity in admitting the freshman class, including academic interests, beliefs, political views, geographical origins and family circumstances, as well as racial identity. The process does not automatically reward a plus to students from a particular race, their brief said.

    In ruling for Harvard, a federal district court judge said abandoning considerations of race "would cause a sharp decline in the percentage of African American and Hispanic students."

    The Supreme Court will likely hear the cases in its next term, which begins in October.

  • Jan 24, 2022
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    Yet another reason why voting for presidents for president sake is stupid

    Voting for presidents based on the Supreme Court is vastly more important

  • Jan 24, 2022
    Young D

    Yet another reason why voting for presidents for president sake is stupid

    Voting for presidents based on the Supreme Court is vastly more important

    Same thing goes for Senators obvi btw

  • Jan 24, 2022

    Haha! Nice!!!!!

  • Our lord and savior Joe Biden ain't gonna let this happen.

  • Jan 25, 2022
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    Young D

    Yet another reason why voting for presidents for president sake is stupid

    Voting for presidents based on the Supreme Court is vastly more important

    it's important to point in this very specific situation the origin of this case doesn't have anything to do with conservatives though, in fact it doesn't even have anything to do with the white population at all either, it has to do with asian students and a claim that current AA processes violate Title VI of the Civil Rights Act; the claim being made in the case is actually contrary to what most conservatives would probably prefer (general repeal of Title VI), but since it's against AA, you're likely to see some weird twist of support for it. the case is a headache which doesn't really accurately fall on partisan cultural lines

  • Jan 25, 2022
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    krishna bound

    it's important to point in this very specific situation the origin of this case doesn't have anything to do with conservatives though, in fact it doesn't even have anything to do with the white population at all either, it has to do with asian students and a claim that current AA processes violate Title VI of the Civil Rights Act; the claim being made in the case is actually contrary to what most conservatives would probably prefer (general repeal of Title VI), but since it's against AA, you're likely to see some weird twist of support for it. the case is a headache which doesn't really accurately fall on partisan cultural lines

    Ohh interesting

  • Jan 25, 2022
    Young D

    Ohh interesting

    Yeah I think it'll be interesting to see what comes of this because on a surface level it seems very flat & clear cut but in reality the case isn't as culturally partisan as headlines make it seem

  • Jan 25, 2022
    krishna bound

    it's important to point in this very specific situation the origin of this case doesn't have anything to do with conservatives though, in fact it doesn't even have anything to do with the white population at all either, it has to do with asian students and a claim that current AA processes violate Title VI of the Civil Rights Act; the claim being made in the case is actually contrary to what most conservatives would probably prefer (general repeal of Title VI), but since it's against AA, you're likely to see some weird twist of support for it. the case is a headache which doesn't really accurately fall on partisan cultural lines

    I support this 🤔

  • Jan 25, 2022
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    krishna bound

    it's important to point in this very specific situation the origin of this case doesn't have anything to do with conservatives though, in fact it doesn't even have anything to do with the white population at all either, it has to do with asian students and a claim that current AA processes violate Title VI of the Civil Rights Act; the claim being made in the case is actually contrary to what most conservatives would probably prefer (general repeal of Title VI), but since it's against AA, you're likely to see some weird twist of support for it. the case is a headache which doesn't really accurately fall on partisan cultural lines

    do u think most conservatives realize they would prefer a repeal of title VI? seems to go against the general "MLK would be a conservative!" gestalt

  • Jan 25, 2022
    gabapentin

    do u think most conservatives realize they would prefer a repeal of title VI? seems to go against the general "MLK would be a conservative!" gestalt

    Realistically, no, I don't think the majority of conservatives realize this in the public sphere, but this is because it's extremely unreasonable to expect the average voter to have an intrinsic grasp of the complexity of law and legal linguistics - voter bases gravitate more toward outcomes and make assumptions about laws relative to that.
    In recent time there's a lot of right wing (albeit not necessarily conservative but more in that direction) of pundits online who have begun to realize this though, and it's definitely beginning to surface in editorials on sites like the Spectator or national review or similar. With that I mean iirc even certain conservative politicians have famously for a long time (I believe Rand Paul has wanted to repeal the CRA for years), so it's not exactly an exotic idea either.