Mel

5y

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This is a dialogue of what is on his mind, what don't you understand about that?

It's a dialogue between him and the audience and the stage is the medium.

It's not the following things or responsibility of him to do the following things

• A platform to advocate or for him to be an advocate

• Critical a***ysis/oral presentation of the topic

No, it's a comedian using his time to have a conversation about what is troubling him/what he feels about it.

He's talking on a human level here, if he had this conservation with you face to face would you be critical that he didn't mention women?

No. You'd just go " Hey yeah but I also want to say ...." Because yea it's convo that's 1:1 open to response.

Tiger

5y

Its really telling that a lot of people in this thread would rather defend and argue about Dave Chappele then acknowledge how damaging the lack of representation and voice for black women is in this fight for racial equality and how this special contributes to that damage.

Beck

5y

You are quoting me with that when I'm here talking about Dave, and so has that user been here, talking about Dave.

Dave has a big platform, and that's why we are talking about what he created.

OUT OF ORDER

5y

Why don’t Tiffany Haddish or Wanda Sykes drop a special then?

Yall are really reaching

Beck

5y

This doesn't even make sense, now a Black woman has to drop a special to get Black womens voices amplified?

DonutHole

5y

Several posters already argued that what he created is not an exhaustif list of random black victims of police brutality(or should i say murder) but rather a piece that wove his personal life with what he experienced witnessing these traumatic murders happen (witness as in hearing about ir on the news etc)

OUT OF ORDER

5y

Why don’t Tiffany Haddish or Wanda Sykes drop a special then?

Yall are really reaching

DonutHole

5y

why does gender matter that much, people are human i don't think that Dave chapelle said : wow im traumatized, idk what's happening to the country right now bit f black women I'm only talking about men and children.

Beck

5y

And what was on his mind was about Black people but included no Black women.

That is what we are talking about. What are you not getting?

Beck

5y

And I'm not arguing for a full list of all Black people killed, I am talking about how a random list and a whole discussion had no Black women voices amplified and it happens often.

He has Black women in his life as do many Black men, but these discussions never include those voices.

Mel

5y

You can't speculate what was on his mind and why he chose to deliver his thoughts the way he did. What are you trying to do here?

The topic of gender may be foremost on your mind but it's not to him. The objective here is to describe his pain. He could have mentioned no one but Floyd and it wouldn't have it a lesser special.

I don't think you really understand the platform of a comedian and the point of their comedy.

Also good job not thinking about what someone sent to you as a response.

Literally replied in 5 seconds lol.

OUT OF ORDER

5y

What Chapelle said in this special: “Fuck the police, it’s f***ed up how they treat black people and help enforce the systematic racism that plagues the country to this day. Something needs to change

”

What lipstick alley users think he said: “Fuck all black women, I’m gonna purposely leave out their names so they realize how much I don’t care about them. Really hope they keep getting killed by police

”

DonutHole

5y

Ok, i must admit that I'm lost, I don't understand the concept of voices you're talking about, how do you mesure that? Im asking honestly not trying to be smart or anything

Beck

5y

I can't speculate I can go off what he talked about which is what I'm doing.

I'm being critical and discussing what he spoke on.

I type fast, I thought about what you said, I read it and I feel a lot of what you said had nothing to do with my point so I did not address it.

Mel

5y

It has entirely to do with the point you missed.

You're assessing a stand up special as an essayist which is misguided.

laudi

5y

itt: women creating arguments with no foundation for attention

laudi

5y

itt: women creating arguments with no foundation for attention

DonutHole

5y

I think you're missing the point but 👌🏾

Beck

5y

You ain't saying s*** either, you just want a reaction and attention. Here's a crumb.

OUT OF ORDER

5y

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Forreal lol, peak narcissism

Beck

5y

Gender matters, because Black women are not as uplifted in these discussions. It's about Black People but Black women are often taking a backseat.

If you believe it is about all our struggles then amplify all our voices. That is the whole problem.

You are basically just saying he has a focus on manhood and men but I'm wrong for saying so as well, how does that work?

Those mens stories aren't his story but he amplified them, Black women are part of his life but those voices weren't included.

Beck

5y

It does not, I'm treating this as a disucssion on Black life by a Black man through his eyes, and I am discussing what I saw as the outcome.

laudi

5y

keep spinning your "Why didn't Dave mention black women?" bs for another few pages