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    Tilia

    Lil kid knew exactly about michaels black suitcase with p***o in it

    His assistent who was also abused was trying to hide his p*** but his friend found out and he admitted it was a phase between him and mike

    Even more embarrassing

    Did your beloved documentary mention how the Arvizos had to change their entire timeline of abuse once MJ had a stone cold alibi

    Or did your beloved documentary mention how Gavin testified to seeing a p*** magazine shown by MJ which didn't exist until long after he'd left Neverland

    No? Funny

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    VSTVRXTH

    I mean even if he didn’t do what he was accused of he was still wildly inappropriate around children. The behavior he exhibited should by no means be normalized or played down. Seems like MJ stans refuse to acknowledge that.

    You tryna be the retroactive moral police from home?

  • I feel like the stakes for pedophilia are super high and peoples automated defense of mike just shows how disconnected ppl are from the reality of the allegations

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    KingOfPop

    Or read the actual transcript of the trial

    Or this! The podcast provides (much needed) context of the time surrounding the allegations and the different cases/trials/settlements. 👍🏾

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    flootures

    Or this! The podcast provides (much needed) context of the time surrounding the allegations and the different cases/trials/settlements. 👍🏾

    I'm pretty sure telephone stories is full of s***

  • KingOfPop

    I'm pretty sure telephone stories is full of s***

    I don't think speaking to legal parties from both sides of the trials makes them full of s*** but everyone is entitled to their opinion

  • Just let the damn man rest... Enough already

  • KingOfPop

    Boo hoo

    The most famous rapper in the world is pissing on MJ's grave

    Go talk tough to them

  • Leftside

    You tryna be the retroactive moral police from home?

    I’m 100% sure they were people at the time that thought his behavior was questionable. Again may not have been illegal but questionable. Hell, that’s why this conversation is still being had after his court win. If the allegations were false he, by his own behavior gave those rumors the substantiation to be looked in to.

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    KingOfPop

    Even more embarrassing

    Did your beloved documentary mention how the Arvizos had to change their entire timeline of abuse once MJ had a stone cold alibi

    Or did your beloved documentary mention how Gavin testified to seeing a p*** magazine shown by MJ which didn't exist until long after he'd left Neverland

    No? Funny

    Watching the doc and the magazine thing has been shown so far, it has a lot of voices from both sides

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    KingOfPop

    Even more embarrassing

    Did your beloved documentary mention how the Arvizos had to change their entire timeline of abuse once MJ had a stone cold alibi

    Or did your beloved documentary mention how Gavin testified to seeing a p*** magazine shown by MJ which didn't exist until long after he'd left Neverland

    No? Funny

    A kid confusing a p*** magazine isnt the flex u think it is brother. Do I believe that he abused all of them? No obviously some of them were trying to hit the lotto but there was something weird going on.

    Why did that kid know about MJs p*** stash? Why did Frank Tyson ask Vincent Amen to get rid of a Nike bag with p*** video ordering catalog and tell him there was a phase where he and MJ would watch the films together when he was pressed about it

  • Fries

    Watching the doc and the magazine thing has been shown so far, it has a lot of voices from both sides

    Yes it shows both sides

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    Fries

    Watching the doc and the magazine thing has been shown so far, it has a lot of voices from both sides

    Fake impartiality

    Unless they tell you Janet Arvizo is a convicted fraud who hunted JC Penney with false allegations, tried to get money from Jay Leno, Chris Tucker and more

    It's not worth watching. And I'm leaving out the idiocy behind believing the second timeline they put forward which means MJ did nothing to the boy for 3 years and only began to abuse him post LWMJ when the world began to suspect it

    The Arvizo case is as weak as they come and was a gigantic waste of tax payer dollar

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    KingOfPop

    Fake impartiality

    Unless they tell you Janet Arvizo is a convicted fraud who hunted JC Penney with false allegations, tried to get money from Jay Leno, Chris Tucker and more

    It's not worth watching. And I'm leaving out the idiocy behind believing the second timeline they put forward which means MJ did nothing to the boy for 3 years and only began to abuse him post LWMJ when the world began to suspect it

    The Arvizo case is as weak as they come and was a gigantic waste of tax payer dollar

    JC Panney stuff is in episode 2

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    Tilia

    A kid confusing a p*** magazine isnt the flex u think it is brother. Do I believe that he abused all of them? No obviously some of them were trying to hit the lotto but there was something weird going on.

    Why did that kid know about MJs p*** stash? Why did Frank Tyson ask Vincent Amen to get rid of a Nike bag with p*** video ordering catalog and tell him there was a phase where he and MJ would watch the films together when he was pressed about it

    Do you even know who Vincent Amen is

    He was interviewed under immunity and didn't mention any of this once

    Why was it not brought forward when Sneddon interviewed him in 2004? Because it's bullshit

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    KingOfPop

    Do you even know who Vincent Amen is

    He was interviewed under immunity and didn't mention any of this once

    Why was it not brought forward when Sneddon interviewed him in 2004? Because it's bullshit

    He shows video evidence he recorded at the time in the docu

  • Tilia

    JC Panney stuff is in episode 2

    Good

    I imagine the fake kidnapping hot air balloon shopping trips are also included

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    Tilia

    He shows video evidence he recorded at the time in the docu

    And what was done with this bombshell "evidence"

    Given he was under immunity and they were even allowing 1108 prior bad acts evidence included

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    KingOfPop

    And what was done with this bombshell "evidence"

    Given he was under immunity and they were even allowing 1108 prior bad acts evidence included

    MJ: I try to avoid it as much as I can. That's what Iike so much about travelling. You can see the systems that other countries adopt and you come to realise that America is not always right. We say we're right, they say they're right. You really don't get a clear picture until you leave the United States. You realise that there are other cultures than your own and it makes you feel small and insignificant. Like in india, I was amazed to find out a thirty year old man could marry a ten year old girl. We weren't raised that way so we look at it weirdly. But there, it's been happening for centuries and the parents are quite willing to give up their child.

    this isnt weird to you? His thought proces at 20 years old?

    Honestly most pedos dont think theyre doing anything wrong and think its okay as long as the children are okay with it. I feel like that was also the case with MJ unfortunately. S*** actually breaks my heart

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    Tilia

    MJ: I try to avoid it as much as I can. That's what Iike so much about travelling. You can see the systems that other countries adopt and you come to realise that America is not always right. We say we're right, they say they're right. You really don't get a clear picture until you leave the United States. You realise that there are other cultures than your own and it makes you feel small and insignificant. Like in india, I was amazed to find out a thirty year old man could marry a ten year old girl. We weren't raised that way so we look at it weirdly. But there, it's been happening for centuries and the parents are quite willing to give up their child.

    this isnt weird to you? His thought proces at 20 years old?

    Honestly most pedos dont think theyre doing anything wrong and think its okay as long as the children are okay with it. I feel like that was also the case with MJ unfortunately. S*** actually breaks my heart

    Leaving the US revealed different customs and cultures. How f***ing bizarre

    It doesn't break your heart, you are perpetuating typical Reddit pedo fantasy bullshit

    Have you ever actually read the transcripts of the 2005 trial?

  • Tilia

    Watching the netflix docu and he did that s*** man

    Bro fell for the Netflix propaganda

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    KingOfPop

    Leaving the US revealed different customs and cultures. How f***ing bizarre

    It doesn't break your heart, you are perpetuating typical Reddit pedo fantasy bullshit

    Have you ever actually read the transcripts of the 2005 trial?

    yo you've probably answered this question many times atp but what would you say is the best comprehensive documentary or youtube series or anything like that defending MJ? my friend was asking for one and i guess it's on topic for this thread

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    vingu

    yo you've probably answered this question many times atp but what would you say is the best comprehensive documentary or youtube series or anything like that defending MJ? my friend was asking for one and i guess it's on topic for this thread

    Square One on Amazon Prime

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    KingOfPop

    Square One on Amazon Prime

    bet

  • Tilia

    Watching the netflix docu and he did that s*** man

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