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  • sfsorrow

    the funniest s*** was him saying Montreal was more relevant to hiphop than any southern city a month or two ago lmao

    Yeah he was buggin and I love Montreal but his reasoning was how close it is to NY compared to southern cities and the Haitian/Caribbean enclave in the city… like wtf are you chattin bout. Just stick to loopin samples

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    He started this same war on twitter years ago.

    Leave it alone bruh

  • Aug 3
    GTA VI

    Hes annoying as f***, hes always tweeting some s*** like this. I dont even really feel a particular way about this tweet but im tired of him acting like hes a rule maker within rap

    He acts like someone left him in charge, white people can’t help but be controlling & over bearing even when its something thats not theirs lol

    It's funny cuz these producers get joints with Mach and Griselda and start tweeting like this virtually overnight. He was originally on some "make your own rules" s*** at first. Cuz ppl were hating on his style.

    He's a loop master tho. Not even in the way somebody like Alc would do it, he samples the from the first 4 off a record every time.

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    I don't know if I could say it's an elitist thing since he's openly proud about making all his sampled beats with his mouse
    No midi pads/actual music gear involved besides an audio interface

    If he's acting elitist about it, then that's another thing

    Not a Craven fan although he does have joints

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    Dorks make beats and now they think they producers 💀

  • Aug 3

    I've used YouTube for things I haven’t got the CDQ source for at the time so not to waste time
    But I'll go back afterwards when I have time to get the CDQ & then I'll drop it in place (Ableton file switching is pretty easy)

  • Aug 3
    Troy Ave Stan

    Dorks make beats and now they think they producers 💀

    The posts ain't hitting the same without the avi fam
    Where has it gone fam?
    You gotta put something up there smh, you a longtime poster, I need that avi back to maintain the feeling
    We lost too many posters over the years

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    If you can, should always sample straight from the vinyl or cd rips. As long as its lossy/losseless quality.

    Use YouTube if you cant even find any rips or physical of such.

    Or youtube if the fidelity of the rip is interesting

  • Aug 3

    Lol there’s so many ways to finesse youtube samples.

  • Aug 3
    MyLeftBrain

    Producers are making AI samples now.

    And I agree with the notion that people sampled vinyl because that was what they could pick up for free at relatives or buy for cheap at thrift stores, not because it had elite sound.
    The reason they used 808’s back in the days was because no one wanted them and you could get em cheap at thrift stores.

    Don’t try to buy yourself talent.
    Buy some cheap stuff and buy some liquor and good food, and work part time so you have more time to live and make music.

    F*** all that elite equipment.
    It’s a trap

    Yeah most equipment ain't necessary, I say this even as a person with a full studio setup

    I really don't need the physical synths at all
    & I definitely didn't need the drum machine when I already have an Ableton Push 2 so I could use the superb step sequencer that's perfectly integrated with the Ableton Drum Rack

    If someone was serious about getting into music making I'd probably just tell em to get a Focusrite, a Rode NT1 & any midi keyboard with full size keys, basically set & that's only gonna cost like 200 bucks
    Everything else can be found in the DAW

    & they're gonna use Ableton (like i'd recommend) a Push 1 still works perfectly fine & can be bought for like 120 bucks

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    notbrock

    A good turntable setup and vinyl objectively sounds more crisp and clean than YouTube rips

    But it really depends on how the sample gets used. If it’s really buried in the beat it doesn’t matter as much

    all depends on the source. listen to new music on vinyl it sounds terrible. if it's recorded on an audio technica at-2020 through a focusrite scarlett and mixed through wired earpods it won't have that full warm sound you're expecting on vinyl

  • Sir Real

    why is the alternative having to spend a bunch of money on vinyl? Just take five minutes to hop on Soulseek or whatever and get it in decent quality

    Or just make good music lol

  • Itt: non beat makers that wouldnt be able to tell what a vinyl sample sounds like versus a youtube to mp3 one sounds like

  • 1996 BRL

    I don't know if I could say it's an elitist thing since he's openly proud about making all his sampled beats with his mouse
    No midi pads/actual music gear involved besides an audio interface

    If he's acting elitist about it, then that's another thing

    Not a Craven fan although he does have joints

    damn just dry like that clickity clicking

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    Classique

    all depends on the source. listen to new music on vinyl it sounds terrible. if it's recorded on an audio technica at-2020 through a focusrite scarlett and mixed through wired earpods it won't have that full warm sound you're expecting on vinyl

    You mean my a***og synths are gonna sound trash because they come through my Focusrite Scarlett ADAT expander

    Is that why I'm not on tour right now?

  • Aug 3
    1996 BRL

    You mean my a***og synths are gonna sound trash because they come through my Focusrite Scarlett ADAT expander

    Is that why I'm not on tour right now?

    Sidebar

    I did find it really stupid that Alex G/Sandy was using a Samson Q1U USB mic for all his recording purposes until his 2019 album
    Dude was on his 7th album & had been touring since like 2012 & was still doing studio recording with a garbage ass mic. I get it but also for archive purposes & just for making things sound a pinch better, he should've veen upgraded years before that

  • OmegaRed

    Montreal producer Nicholas Craven, known for his clean, melodic beats with artists like Boldy James, urged others to ditch low-quality YouTube samples for better sound. Others pushed back, with Q NO RAP NAME calling it a natural generational shift since vinyl defined past eras and YouTube defines theirs now. Producers like SWARVY pointed to Madlib's own iPad and YouTube habits amid high record prices, while Spanish Ran suggested skilled mixing can blend both sources seamlessly. The talk highlights how tech and costs are shifting hip-hop production, with no side claiming victory yet.

    Source for all the chiming in :

    https://twitter.com/NicholasCraven_/status/2083581057794822168https://twitter.com/NicholasCraven_/status/2083581057794822168https://twitter.com/Spanish_Ran/status/2083969988151423414https://twitter.com/sexafterchurch/status/2084010232414421140https://twitter.com/qnorapname_/status/2083941292753752568https://twitter.com/sovren_/status/2084042060072452350https://twitter.com/sampleflipper/status/2084026625729942002https://twitter.com/Swrvy/status/2083973481482289309

    Niontay had the best response lol

  • C***from Canada keeps trying to insert himself in how things in hip-hop should go.

    Mind you this is the same dude who constantly gets his feelings whenever people say that Black artists who have their work sampled should be able to receive compensation for their work that they didn't receive due to getting f***ed over by the labels. He'll just start crying about "sample snitching".

  • JR

    He started this same war on twitter years ago.

    Leave it alone bruh

    This dude is a bonafide lame honestly. One of the few times I'll tell a producer to shut up and just make the beats.

  • of course its some white ginger with this brain dead take

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    who gives a s*** about a rip if you can EQ it properly

  • I dont think there should be any rules in production but the 16khz cutoff is embarrassing.

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    Sir Swagalot

    who gives a s*** about a rip if you can EQ it properly

    You cant extrapolate the lost information, esp with an eq

  • eversince

    nah i lowkey agree. whenever i find a sample from youtube, i go on soulseek and get a flac or wav file.

    plus, a bunch of ppl use s***ty youtube to mp3 converters. liek at least use cobalt tools

    I run my master buss through ghz lossy lese codec rc20 and a hysteresis modeller, as well as a sample rate reducer and bit rate reducer. When it comes to the sound of failure i like to cover all my bases. If there’s any audible information left, i know ive made a mistake

  • I’ve been producing for half my life and I’ll tell you right now I can’t tell the difference between something that was ripped off YouTube or straight from vinyl but okay Nicholas