Odd comparison

ICEMAN would’ve kept this streak going for another 35 🥶

never seen this thread before!

Maybe if people titled their threads I’d see them

There is literally a thread called "There are no Hip Hop songs in the billboard top 40 for the first time since almost the 1980s" what more could you want

I have that OP blocked

Absolutely not because the real issue here isn't related to the genre itself

It's about the entertainment industry's struggle to create new and interesting enough stars in an era where monoculture is non existent.

This is a hip-hop thing, but it's happening in all fields of entertainment.

It doesn't help that the most popular rappers starting in 2019, were more street. In previous eras, the popular rappers were making songs like Find your love, stronger, workout, etc.

now they're making trenches rap

That doesn't help matters but ultimately, the biggest issue here is that Hip-Hop (and every other field of entertainment) can't create commercially viable stars anymore due to no monoculture.

When's the last time you saw Denzel DiCaprio AND Dwayne Johnson all flop at the box office in one year?

Is it really an issue that we don’t crowd around a mainstream founded on profitable viability for corporations ?

Relative to the topic, and in general, yes.

If you're asking for personal feelings and opinions on it, then that's different.

But as it pertains to Hip-Hop's mainstream decline, and diagnosing said decline then yes, the 'issue' is industry can't monopolize culture as it used to do due to no monoculture

Sure, I just think that’s a good thing for hiphop overall

I think it’s pretty good. Rock used to be the biggest genre like hip hop has been

Then it fell off

Now I’m not saying that will happen to hip hop, but if one was to make the argument that it was falling off, pointing to rock isn’t the worst comparison

I would disagree.

There's a cascading impact to Hip-Hop not being commercially viable. A lot of jobs are lost when Hip-Hop isn't viable.

The comparison to Rock falls flat because ALL forms of music are in decline.

Country is having a moment, but it's really only because of Wallen.

In general, on a macro level across all genres, there's a small group of artists that matter and move the needle commercially.

Essentially no one from any genre outside of a few, can move units.

Jobs and cultural clout.

Why not mainstream rock vs mainstream hiphop

The so called ‘ICEMAN’ and his flopped singles came and went

Pop is up though.

gonna leave this one open since @op has never called hip-hop a “low IQ genre”

Aight

Pop and country don't seem to be having the problem