How do we remove the barriers of co-dependency, toxicity, self-hatred, insecurity, manipulation?

I'm talking about things in practice, in reality not some theory utopian world. I was only referring to the police being abolished - which would be a massive shift in how America has always operated.

There will never, ever be a time where the following is all implemented at once: police get abolished, free education, federal jobs guarantee program, large redistribution of wealth, cutting of military budget, free health care, s***worker decriminalized, and so on. Regardless of my beliefs on my issues, look how how hard it was for Obama to get healthcare passed and he had to strip it down from his original intent. Regardless of the merit of these issues on an individual basis (because these issues have merits).

And the notion that crime only happens because of poverty is nonsense. Poverty creates conditions that lead to more crime yes, but there is a lot more going on than just poverty. There is more poverty where my parents are from and a lot less crime than America

the cops act as a deterrent to beating the s*** out of the wife though? like not the cops themselves ofc, its just that the mere idea of theoretical punishment and going to prison is generally a deterrent to acting violently and rashly. sometimes people cross this line - which is why i mentioned it being irrational, being it disregards idea of resolution and idea of punishment. but there's more to spousal abuse than just money and violence. there's psychological issues, sometimes there's dealing with not wanting to split up kids. sometimes people are indoctrinated into accepting abuse and it's not even them who calls for help, it's neighbors witnessing violence people have normalized.

You don’t need an armed guard for a homeless man peeing on the street. You need a social worker or a counselor.

you could set her up with a support group first off, you could have her in a completely different community, etc.,

What you’re not looking at, and actively refusing to look at, are the complex human emotions and psyche behind all this.

It’s not just physical barriers, the mental ones are the ones that’ll still remain no matter what you want us to do.

No, we’re not changing the story now. She’s not in a support group, since if she was there would be no abuse going on. She is actively being abused, go solve it.

can you go ahead and define co-dependency

are you f***ing dumb?

like, you could literally set her up with a support group after the abuse is found out and the household situation is taken care of. you are literally trying to be obtuse now.

I’m not getting into literal definitions.

Just the idea that despite the abuse, I need the other person. They complete me, and I don’t know who I am without them.

Is it? What if the husband barges into this new community?

soo stockholm syndrome.

Lmao maybe don’t argue w this dude, he kinda ignorant asl

Abolish the police Jay Z the feds

not just specific to this post but in a wider sense, the idea of rehabilitation vs retribution is probably one of the real biggest divides in public opinion at the lowest level, even non-politically (say, take how people take kids misbehaving - spanking vs behavioral therapy i.e. time outs). for every 5 people who are sympathetic to seeing a homeless person or someone committing a petty "crime", i guarantee you there are 5 wishing they were put in camps. this is one of the real reasons its so hard to get people to agree on this type of stuff; fundamentally such a large part of the population just disagrees with what punishment/reaction actually constitutes

What if that happens now?

what if, some dude beats his wife, the cops get called. the woman is so traumatized that she doesn't press charges. so he continues to beat her. eventually she calls the cops again, and presses charges. he gets out on bail. he finds her and kills her out of revenge.

what happens now

Remember that Blue and Black dress some people were saying was white and gold? That's how a lot of these debates and conversations are becoming. Some people can not see it the other way around.

No what the f***? Stockholm is when feelings happen post “capture”. Codependency, or what I’m describing, is not drawn from abuse, but from the start of the relationship itself. It’s the loving moments that devolve into abuse.

I do believe traffic patrol shouldn't have guns though. Or find a way to automate traffic infractions just like the red light camera thingy.

Alot of s*** pops off from small traffic infractions and due to cops being total Chad's

yeah is that her in blackface??

Why are you worried about now? No one is saying “now” is good.

How does your society deal with that issue?

so what are you even saying lol, that has nothing to do with what I'm saying. Codependency is not a factor that prevents women from leaving, in this case it would be a factor that keeps them in because it sounds like theyd just be ignoring the abuse altogether.

Just admit your system is flawed and would not be equipped to handle this situation lol.

This was the example you chose to give, not our fault it was easy to pick apart.