goretex 💁🏽♂️Feb 6back in the day when you looked at african american music, being a rapper wasn't the number one thing for us. And until the white people in the music industry robbed rap of its message and turned it into a highway for capitalistic values and violence, hip hop was not the monolithic genre that it is right now. The main genre was rnb/soul and niggas was getting in shootouts after concerts where they sang to the shawties in the tightest fit u ever seen.
There's so many artist that clearly hate being rappers but due to them being black, use the genre to catapult themselves into fame and fortune. Yet when it's time to nurture the fields they harvested from, they do dumb things like call themselves a musician, rockstar, or s*** on the genre in general.
Many of these melodic artist that refuse to accept the title of rapper are singers, and if this was the 80s they would have NOT been rappers. So much of the new school are not hip hop artists but only used this overarching culture to build a platform on cause they black. It stems from the fact that a lot of these niggas SUCK AT RAPPING. Yes they are good at making melodies or rhyming words together but actually cannot MC. And instead of admitting that, they usually go on to s*** on the genre or make excuses like they're not a rapper, or the game sucks right now blah blah blah b**** get better.
I really feel like we should start separating this from hip hop and start encouraging young black musicians to be truthful about what they want to make despite what they look like. If you wanna sing but all ur niggas rap, be a singer. Look at 4batz! But don't do this half assed s*** and then s*** on rap and drop a trash ass surface level pop album because u never was good at rapping in the first place. Let's start supporting RAPPERS that actually want to be RAPPERS and separate these singing d*** addicts from them
- goretex 💁🏽♂️OPFeb 6·1 reply
BIG earlybefore i finish reading your post, are you white? @op
why ask that dumbass question
- Feb 6·1 replygoretex
why ask that dumbass question
you called it african american music
- goretex 💁🏽♂️OPFeb 6·2 repliesBIG early
you called it african american music
im african american it's a huge difference between that and the monolithic term "black"
- Feb 6goretex
im african american it's a huge difference between that and the monolithic term "black"
being politically correct
let me see what you typed out in this op man 
Feb 6goretexback in the day when you looked at african american music, being a rapper wasn't the number one thing for us. And until the white people in the music industry robbed rap of its message and turned it into a highway for capitalistic values and violence, hip hop was not the monolithic genre that it is right now. The main genre was rnb/soul and niggas was getting in shootouts after concerts where they sang to the shawties in the tightest fit u ever seen.
There's so many artist that clearly hate being rappers but due to them being black, use the genre to catapult themselves into fame and fortune. Yet when it's time to nurture the fields they harvested from, they do dumb things like call themselves a musician, rockstar, or s*** on the genre in general.
Many of these melodic artist that refuse to accept the title of rapper are singers, and if this was the 80s they would have NOT been rappers. So much of the new school are not hip hop artists but only used this overarching culture to build a platform on cause they black. It stems from the fact that a lot of these niggas SUCK AT RAPPING. Yes they are good at making melodies or rhyming words together but actually cannot MC. And instead of admitting that, they usually go on to s*** on the genre or make excuses like they're not a rapper, or the game sucks right now blah blah blah b**** get better.
I really feel like we should start separating this from hip hop and start encouraging young black musicians to be truthful about what they want to make despite what they look like. If you wanna sing but all ur niggas rap, be a singer. Look at 4batz! But don't do this half assed s*** and then s*** on rap and drop a trash ass surface level pop album because u never was good at rapping in the first place. Let's start supporting RAPPERS that actually want to be RAPPERS and separate these singing d*** addicts from them
Idk about singing d*** addicts but I hear you. Some of them sound like they are calling themselves rappers cause it's the most poppingest genre ever, it's marketable but I believe in evolving past a stage and rap definitely evolved. Niggas like Bryson and CB don't just wanna sing anymore, they gotta show all their colors
- Feb 6·1 replygoretex
im african american it's a huge difference between that and the monolithic term "black"
“african american music”
“due to them being black”
so which one is it? - Feb 6
“nurture the fields they harvested from”
Feb 6·1 replyI don’t think they dislike rap. Their influences just aren’t the traditional MC. They would rather be Sosa than J Cole.
The problem was that the niggas from the next generation who could actually rap like Juice and XXX passed away
- Feb 6BIG early
“african american music”
“due to them being black”
so which one is it?Black is the race, African American is the ethnicity
Feb 6rx papi
- goretex 💁🏽♂️OPFeb 6·1 replyFree YoungBoy
I don’t think they dislike rap. Their influences just aren’t the traditional MC. They would rather be Sosa than J Cole.
The problem was that the niggas from the next generation who could actually rap like Juice and XXX passed away
it aint even that
its just like some of these niggas would be better off as singers instead of calling themselves rappers and being ass
Feb 6·2 replies”It stems from the fact that a lot of these niggas SUCK AT RAPPING. Yes they are good at making melodies or rhyming words together but actually cannot MC.”
does this apply to your goat Carti? @op
- Feb 6goretex
it aint even that
its just like some of these niggas would be better off as singers instead of calling themselves rappers and being ass
Yeah I agree. I think Pierre is a good example of that and I like his music
- Feb 6
i just heard this lil baby leak where he was using futures flow and it was really good
- goretex 💁🏽♂️OPFeb 6saint dot edumist
”It stems from the fact that a lot of these niggas SUCK AT RAPPING. Yes they are good at making melodies or rhyming words together but actually cannot MC.”
does this apply to your goat Carti? @op
it applies more to yachty than him but yea probably
honestly i think carti is a great rapper at his core
Feb 6·1 replygoretexback in the day when you looked at african american music, being a rapper wasn't the number one thing for us. And until the white people in the music industry robbed rap of its message and turned it into a highway for capitalistic values and violence, hip hop was not the monolithic genre that it is right now. The main genre was rnb/soul and niggas was getting in shootouts after concerts where they sang to the shawties in the tightest fit u ever seen.
There's so many artist that clearly hate being rappers but due to them being black, use the genre to catapult themselves into fame and fortune. Yet when it's time to nurture the fields they harvested from, they do dumb things like call themselves a musician, rockstar, or s*** on the genre in general.
Many of these melodic artist that refuse to accept the title of rapper are singers, and if this was the 80s they would have NOT been rappers. So much of the new school are not hip hop artists but only used this overarching culture to build a platform on cause they black. It stems from the fact that a lot of these niggas SUCK AT RAPPING. Yes they are good at making melodies or rhyming words together but actually cannot MC. And instead of admitting that, they usually go on to s*** on the genre or make excuses like they're not a rapper, or the game sucks right now blah blah blah b**** get better.
I really feel like we should start separating this from hip hop and start encouraging young black musicians to be truthful about what they want to make despite what they look like. If you wanna sing but all ur niggas rap, be a singer. Look at 4batz! But don't do this half assed s*** and then s*** on rap and drop a trash ass surface level pop album because u never was good at rapping in the first place. Let's start supporting RAPPERS that actually want to be RAPPERS and separate these singing d*** addicts from them
This s*** should have happened the moment post malone Travis Scott Rae sremmurd etc all got here
It’s too late now
But you are correct. Hip hop would have stayed potent and “mumble” music would have had a much higher ceiling and opportunity to be taken serious
Travis Scott Post Malone genre of music was what was supposed to culturally replace rock so we could get regular rap back
But young people always wanna be confrontational to tradition and thus when people say certain things aren’t hip hop there’s butthurt
- Feb 6saint dot edumist
”It stems from the fact that a lot of these niggas SUCK AT RAPPING. Yes they are good at making melodies or rhyming words together but actually cannot MC.”
does this apply to your goat Carti? @op
Also this
Uzi Carti Yachty would all be in the category of music genre OP is proposing
Really Kanye had it figured out when he wanted 808s to be classified as the new genre of Pop Art. That fixes everything that comes after it lol
Feb 6·edited·2 repliesThe more the merrier. Making music is a more rewarding process than consuming it.
But if we're just talking about labels, sure, there are rapper rappers and then there are melodist rappers.
Feb 6Tell that to Ben Shapiro
Feb 6·1 replyRock MudsonThe more the merrier. Making music is a more rewarding process than consuming it.
But if we're just talking about labels, sure, there are rapper rappers and then there are melodist rappers.
The more the merrier only applies to things like an orgy, not an artform
- Feb 6·1 replyIcaphxxxx
The more the merrier only applies to things like an orgy, not an artform
Disagree. I'd rather a billion people make art than a billion people consume it. The latter gets you s*** like Jurassic World. The former gets you Bandcamp.
- goretex 💁🏽♂️OPFeb 6·1 replyRock Mudson
The more the merrier. Making music is a more rewarding process than consuming it.
But if we're just talking about labels, sure, there are rapper rappers and then there are melodist rappers.
no. the more the merrier brings in people diluting the original purpose of hip hop. and due to them not being able to do what is considered hip hop, they'll discredit it indirectly
- Feb 6·1 replygoretex
no. the more the merrier brings in people diluting the original purpose of hip hop. and due to them not being able to do what is considered hip hop, they'll discredit it indirectly
No, that's dilution of the industry. The industry simply can't support everyone making music. The average person also probably won't make "industry" music.
There are probably more people playing instruments than ever. Is there cheap folk music saturating the radio? Nope.
And, again, that's a consumer problem. Consumption has become the problem. We consume too much. Make more.