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  • Jun 21, 2023

    Yeezus was clearly the beginning of the decline for Ye, even if its an amazing album and one of his best roll outs. TLOP was a moment and pretty good, but nowhere near those first 6. Donda clears

  • Jun 21, 2023
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    Smacked Voodoo

    Truly crazy how Kanye's music fell off a f***in cliff after Yeezus while Cole and Mac went on to get better

    Mac's didn't

  • Jun 21, 2023

    yeezus yeezus yeezus

  • Jun 21, 2023

    Y E E Z U S D U H

  • Jun 21, 2023

    Those other 2 albums shouldn’t even be mentioned in the same breath as Yeezus

  • Jun 21, 2023
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    Smacked Voodoo

    Truly crazy how Kanye's music fell off a f***in cliff after Yeezus while Cole and Mac went on to get better

    Stop comparing the greatest artist of all time to two good rappers

    The Life of Pablo is a masterpiece
    Ye, KSG, and Donda are all great later career works

  • Jun 21, 2023
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    Jayson

    Mac's didn't

  • Jun 21, 2023

    Yeezus was groundbreaking.
    Such a polarizing release

    Influenced a lot of your favorite artists.

  • Jun 21, 2023
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    glassrainbow

    Stop comparing the greatest artist of all time to two good rappers

    The Life of Pablo is a masterpiece
    Ye, KSG, and Donda are all great later career works

    Reading is fundamental

    And for the love of god please spare me with that "We don't need to compare" or "All three can co-exist" bullshit.

  • Jun 21, 2023
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    Smacked Voodoo

    He went 1/3 after WMWTSO. I'm cool on that Ariana Grande ass rap he was doing on Divine Feminine and Circles

  • Jun 21, 2023
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    Jayson

    He went 1/3 after WMWTSO. I'm cool on that Ariana Grande ass rap he was doing on Divine Feminine and Circles

    GO:OD and Swimming were great

  • Jun 21, 2023

    Also think The Divine Feminine was dope too, departure from weirdo psychedelic lane again and it was executed well. Beautiful album tbh

  • Jun 21, 2023
    Smacked Voodoo

    GO:OD and Swimming were great

    I forgot about GO:OD, bro went 1/4. I'm cool on those 3 albums, mind you I'm not a BSP fan. I didn't like Mac until the Macadelic tape

    Which is cheeks too but it's progression

  • Jun 21, 2023

    Yeezus is a classic
    BS is BS

  • Jun 21, 2023

    born sinner i prolly played the most over time. yeezus is super nostalgic to me. and i just started coming around to mac’s album ngl. but all three incredibly solid, don’t think we’ll get a historic rap release day like this again

  • Jun 21, 2023

    Yeezus obviously

    but WMWTSO has some highs that I still play. The Star Room and Red Dot Music are top tier Mac tracks that I’d personally take over a lot of tracks on Yeezus

    I feel like Born Sinner was always last in this and is Coles worst project. It’s pretty impressive how much he leveled up a year later with FHD tho

  • Jun 21, 2023
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    Bobby_96

    Yeezus but Mac's album is pretty close.

    The revisionist history for J Cole on here is hilarious though.

    After FHD, everyone and their mother was criticizing Cole's music from 4YEO and onward.

    People were accusing him of beign artistically underwhelming and stagnant. They were saying that 4YEO was a poor man's TPAB and KOD was preachy and ruined by Kill Edward's s***ty vocals.

    The Off-Season was considered a return to form but it got overshadowed by a lot of rap albums in the 2020's and didn't really leave a huge mark for Cole. As much as people nitpicked Kendrick's album, I hear WAY more discussion over Kendrick's album than Cole's despite Cole's album being much more accessible with a 21 Savage feature and everything.

    I feel like some people here are giving Cole props for "telling the truth" about Kanye on False Prophets and not actually holding him to the same high standards as Ye and Mac.

    Underwhelming and stagnant is putting it lightly.

    People were saying his music was straight up boring.

  • Jun 21, 2023

    Yeezus is the only one I still spin on a regular basis. Mac came thru with a strong project that (along with Macadelic) kind of served as a map for what was going to come from him, and he would top it later.

    I don't listen to Born Sinner at all. It's been so long in fact that I don't even want to say what I think of it, but off rip I would say it's one of Cole's weakest albums.

  • Jun 21, 2023

    1. Yeezus

    LARGE GAP

    2. WMWTSO
    3. Born Sinner

  • Jun 21, 2023
    Bobby_96

    Yeezus but Mac's album is pretty close.

    The revisionist history for J Cole on here is hilarious though.

    After FHD, everyone and their mother was criticizing Cole's music from 4YEO and onward.

    People were accusing him of beign artistically underwhelming and stagnant. They were saying that 4YEO was a poor man's TPAB and KOD was preachy and ruined by Kill Edward's s***ty vocals.

    The Off-Season was considered a return to form but it got overshadowed by a lot of rap albums in the 2020's and didn't really leave a huge mark for Cole. As much as people nitpicked Kendrick's album, I hear WAY more discussion over Kendrick's album than Cole's despite Cole's album being much more accessible with a 21 Savage feature and everything.

    I feel like some people here are giving Cole props for "telling the truth" about Kanye on False Prophets and not actually holding him to the same high standards as Ye and Mac.

    born sinner is my favorite cole album by a long shot

  • Jun 21, 2023
    JR

    Underwhelming and stagnant is putting it lightly.

    People were saying his music was straight up boring.

    Facts. I just wanted to be nice to Cole.

    But, seriously, Cole was NOT revered like that post FHD. Few people outside of Cole stans were praising his post FHD albums and claiming that they were groundbreaking or innovative albums.

    4YEO and KOD were panned by many people. The Dreamsville album was good but that's not a Cole project and Middle Child had mixed reception.

    Off Season was considered Cole's best album since FHD but it was never seen as this classic or great album. Just a dope album from Cole where he finally embraced collaboration with others.

    I get that Ye is pretty unlikeable these days and Cole was probably speaking facts on False Prophet but the OP claiming that Cole showed "growth" after Born Sinner while criticizing Kanye for not growing after Yeezus is hilariously misleading and revisionist history at its finest.

    TLOP may not beat Ye's previous albums in quality but Ye definitely showed more growth and creativity on that project than any of Cole's albums post Born Sinner.

    As for rapping, Cole always rapped better than Kanye. Logic also raps better than Kanye. That's not the same as artistry though.

  • p r o v i d e r

    Yeezus. and Ye hasn't topped it since.

  • Jun 21, 2023

    Yezus

  • Jun 22, 2023
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    Smacked Voodoo

    Reading is fundamental

    And for the love of god please spare me with that "We don't need to compare" or "All three can co-exist" bullshit.

    I’m not saying we don’t need to compare, I’m saying you’re a moron with no taste if you think you can even mention those two albums in the same breath as Yeezus

  • Jun 22, 2023
    glassrainbow

    I’m not saying we don’t need to compare, I’m saying you’re a moron with no taste if you think you can even mention those two albums in the same breath as Yeezus

    I mean people can just change their opinions on albums after ten years because of what the albums mean to them at that point in their life.

    Don't have to be a b**** about it bro. It's a forum about music discussion.

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