at this point Yeezus is established as a reference Album for pretty much every Mainstream Rapper who takes an "experimental" approach for Example Utopia and the latest Yeat Album

bitcrushed / synthetic drums, disorted 808s/Sirens screaming in Songs, Mike Dean, Gesaffelstein, Arca, Industrial.....

what speaks against Yeezus being a Classic in actual Hip Hop Culture not only Kanye fanbase?

nothing.

as with everything kanye, hes light years ahead. so far ahead, that he never gets the credit for what he does. his imitators do

nothing

In 2024, Yeezus is an undisputed classic.

You are 5-10 years away from Donda getting the classic treatment

Vultures becoming a cult classic

and after he passes, Jesus is King will get rescored by every media outlet to a 10

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It don’t feel right to not call it a classic but I remember not really feeling this out of all his projects

Until the post Pablo run started lol

I think On Sight still kinda isn’t good as much as it is a statement/performance art and would have appreciated the same MBDTF level s*** he was trying to build if you go listen to TGFD

I remember black skinhead had a crazy ass version with the full MBDTF extra beat tricks he played at a show or something in 2013-2014

White fashion dudes piss him off so now instead of starting album off with I Am Not Home and going full maximalist Ye like he had been doing he punishes us by reworking the album into some “fuck music” s*** lol

FD signifier broke this down amazingly in his Ye vid with the timeline of the taylor thing > ye’s most prolific “face” run with 2010-2012, the fashion troubles and then the permanent heel turn with Yeezus lol

blood on the leaves kind of a dumb song in hindsight with how ye's life actually turned out. offensive use of that sample too.

album is fine but only maybe 2 songs on that s*** should be given "classic" status.

Idk by this

But Yeezus def classic

Fully agreed. You may argue about JIK or Ye but as far as Donda and Vultures are concerned - they are obviously far above „very good” records and Kanye doesn’t get enough credit for them only because of his political antics.

The fact it didn’t connect with the core of hip hop culture and is held up by people outside/on the edges of the culture is an argument to be made

In some hip hop circles, ones outside of RYM and Fantano core, Yeezus is still mentioned as the standard for rappers dropping BAD albums, not experimental ones.

I think it’s a great quality album. But the impact of it wasn’t truly classic level. Too polarizing to really stamp it as that. It’s Kanye’s Electric Circus

There are none

Ye prototyping the downfall of his lazy open mic style that amounts to p**** and persecution. Works on that album though. It's the high point of his neverending midlife crisis.

Shut up. Delete your account. Get a job.

yes for Donda and no for JIK.

JIK and Ye will be the ones in his discog categorized as filler with some gems

Owl Pharaoh influenced Yeezus

JIK never getting a 10

It's incredible how well yeezus has held up for what's now an 11 year old album
other than blood on the leaves, nothing really sounds like it. Still super fresh

I dont make the rules

Classic status alone cuz of HML

Best ye album tbh this or 808s

They doubted this when it was said about TLOP

Now TLOP in top 3 is hardly a hot take

Not saying Donda is top 3 but reevaluation for classic status is fs otw