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  • neon ๐Ÿ„
    Jan 12, 2021
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    donalddrumpf

    Literally if you couldn't check your phone for one day, you would think btc had a good day (b/c it did % wise)

    I feel like we used to trade sideways for months and consolidate (maybe we do, who knows)

    yeah it really seems like things are moving faster

    for some reason it seems like it won't stay sideways for more than a few weeks, it could but id put the chances under 5% until we get some higher prices

  • Jan 12, 2021
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    neon

    yeah it really seems like things are moving faster

    for some reason it seems like it won't stay sideways for more than a few weeks, it could but id put the chances under 5% until we get some higher prices

    I was looking back at 2017 charts on these corrections on weekly and monthly, so the moves were even fast up then, but sometimes would just drop back down in few weeks

    So lets see

    This time feels faster though, or maybe b/c the numbers are so large, but smaller on a % gain

    I am split on if we see 28k-30k tested at least once more or if we just keep chugging along up to 50-60k and then a drop to mid to high 30s

    Not going to fomo more in, I think this was a good risk tolerance lesson for everyone. Always feels like a good idea to keep buying more when alt prices keep rising 20-30% daily

    Next time I just need to load up a lot more when falling very hard, especially now that I have a good job to afford it

    Some charts on Tradingview a bit scary tbh

    Looks like late 2017 (maybe b/c of how fast we went up)

    tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/KO2rqx7u-20210111-BTC-2018-vs-2021

  • 0 ๐Ÿซช
    Jan 12, 2021
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    you keep mentioning this parabolic top from 17 but you ignore the initial break of $1,300 ATH (where we are now) where we went up 10x to even reach that parabola

    your data and info is skewed and you keep rewriting your narrative

    noone knows what's going to happen and planning months in advance of potential dips or runs is a fool's errand

    you can barely predict the next day let alone week or month in advance

    and no backtesting doesn't work in crypto because it's not a mature market and the data you are comparing to was significantly smaller than today's matured markets (4+ years of building infrastructure) to support and expand the whole ecosystem

  • Jan 12, 2021

    We got stickied!?!??

  • Jan 12, 2021

    Keep clicking the wrong thread from muscle memory forgetting this one got stickied lol

  • Jan 12, 2021
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    you keep mentioning this parabolic top from 17 but you ignore the initial break of $1,300 ATH (where we are now) where we went up 10x to even reach that parabola

    your data and info is skewed and you keep rewriting your narrative

    noone knows what's going to happen and planning months in advance of potential dips or runs is a fool's errand

    you can barely predict the next day let alone week or month in advance

    and no backtesting doesn't work in crypto because it's not a mature market and the data you are comparing to was significantly smaller than today's matured markets (4+ years of building infrastructure) to support and expand the whole ecosystem

    All valid points

    At the end of the day there are no right answers

    Like you just said, you can't use the old data exactly, yet you used that we went up 10x to reach the parabola...

    But data can somewhat be used to make some guesses in a wide range

    We went from a 2013 top of like 1200 to a 20k 2017 top basically
    16.7x

    This was smaller gain than earlier tops (much different market ofc)

    I assume the next top will be less than 16.7x times of 20k

    A 3-10x makes much more sense. Probably closer to the middle range

  • neon ๐Ÿ„
    Jan 12, 2021
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    donalddrumpf

    I was looking back at 2017 charts on these corrections on weekly and monthly, so the moves were even fast up then, but sometimes would just drop back down in few weeks

    So lets see

    This time feels faster though, or maybe b/c the numbers are so large, but smaller on a % gain

    I am split on if we see 28k-30k tested at least once more or if we just keep chugging along up to 50-60k and then a drop to mid to high 30s

    Not going to fomo more in, I think this was a good risk tolerance lesson for everyone. Always feels like a good idea to keep buying more when alt prices keep rising 20-30% daily

    Next time I just need to load up a lot more when falling very hard, especially now that I have a good job to afford it

    Some charts on Tradingview a bit scary tbh

    Looks like late 2017 (maybe b/c of how fast we went up)

    https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/KO2rqx7u-20210111-BTC-2018-vs-2021/

    it will be interesting to see how this all looks after the run is over

    like is this half way up or just the start for btc

    I think we definitely could slow down and get a lot of sideways action if the price settles up higher like we did in the past that's usually when that happens, not near the peak but still over twice the old ATH

    it also slows when it's lower in a Bear Market but I mean in a Bull Market

    yeah there is a lot of uncertainty, usually I have some idea where things are going in the short term but it's definitely hard to tell at the moment

    bull crypto markets are just hard to read when things start moving

    yeah I keep seeing people predict it's going to 25-28k I guess we will see it yeah it could just keep mooning lol

  • Jan 12, 2021
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    neon

    it will be interesting to see how this all looks after the run is over

    like is this half way up or just the start for btc

    I think we definitely could slow down and get a lot of sideways action if the price settles up higher like we did in the past that's usually when that happens, not near the peak but still over twice the old ATH

    it also slows when it's lower in a Bear Market but I mean in a Bull Market

    yeah there is a lot of uncertainty, usually I have some idea where things are going in the short term but it's definitely hard to tell at the moment

    bull crypto markets are just hard to read when things start moving

    yeah I keep seeing people predict it's going to 25-28k I guess we will see it yeah it could just keep mooning lol

    Or near the end haha, but I don't think so, lowest possibility imo rn

    If 42k was the actual top and leads to the 1-2 month alt season (would see very soon), then I would be shocked

    Btc on google trends ramping up. A bit over 60% of the 2017 google activity peak

    Got some ways to go likely, but I do hope we do go a bit lower, go sideways for a couple months and let price build

    Would lead to a higher top the longer this cycle goes, which needs healthy pullbacks that are sustained and retest multiple times

  • neon ๐Ÿ„
    Jan 12, 2021
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    donalddrumpf

    Or near the end haha, but I don't think so, lowest possibility imo rn

    If 42k was the actual top and leads to the 1-2 month alt season (would see very soon), then I would be shocked

    Btc on google trends ramping up. A bit over 60% of the 2017 google activity peak

    Got some ways to go likely, but I do hope we do go a bit lower, go sideways for a couple months and let price build

    Would lead to a higher top the longer this cycle goes, which needs healthy pullbacks that are sustained and retest multiple times

    yeah some sideways bitcoin would be good for alt season and reaching further highs with less violent dumps but bitcoin seems very hot this year I could see something playing out where it hits 6 figures in like a few months before we see much sideways action

  • Jan 12, 2021

    Alts turning green on the daily

    It's time

  • Jan 12, 2021
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    neon
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    yeah some sideways bitcoin would be good for alt season and reaching further highs with less violent dumps but bitcoin seems very hot this year I could see something playing out where it hits 6 figures in like a few months before we see much sideways action

    What and when is your top (can give a range for both)?

  • neon ๐Ÿ„
    Jan 12, 2021
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    donalddrumpf

    What and when is your top (can give a range for both)?

    I think 60k-120k seems reasonable for this cycle

  • Jan 12, 2021
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    neon

    I think 60k-120k seems reasonable for this cycle

    I think that is fair and reasonable

    You said near 100k though in next few months.

    Do you think this cycle heats up quicker than the usual 4 year cycle?

  • neon ๐Ÿ„
    Jan 12, 2021
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    donalddrumpf

    I think that is fair and reasonable

    You said near 100k though in next few months.

    Do you think this cycle heats up quicker than the usual 4 year cycle?

    yeah I think BTC may heat up faster than it did in past cycles and then we would have some kind of major alt season

    it seems like things are already all starting to happen at the same time, in past bull runs things kinda pushed on each other and they definitely do still but a lot of alts are already doing better..

    ETH is pumping a bit earlier also the space is more mature and every Blockchain is becoming it's own ecosystem

    I think it could go even higher like 140k but probably just for a few moments

    ik you were saying you didn't think ETH would flip BTC this cycle. I'm not saying it definitely will but I think it could

    it wouldn't last more than a few days though, I think it will flip BTC permanently but that is going to take a while

  • Jan 12, 2021
    neon

    yeah I think BTC may heat up faster than it did in past cycles and then we would have some kind of major alt season

    it seems like things are already all starting to happen at the same time, in past bull runs things kinda pushed on each other and they definitely do still but a lot of alts are already doing better..

    ETH is pumping a bit earlier also the space is more mature and every Blockchain is becoming it's own ecosystem

    I think it could go even higher like 140k but probably just for a few moments

    ik you were saying you didn't think ETH would flip BTC this cycle. I'm not saying it definitely will but I think it could

    it wouldn't last more than a few days though, I think it will flip BTC permanently but that is going to take a while

    If Eth flips Btc I would be ecstatic

    Anyone here holding nano (since around $1) with me?

    Feel like that has a chance to be a somewhat realistic moonshot bet if it gets near its previous ath

  • neon ๐Ÿ„
    Jan 12, 2021


  • Jan 12, 2021
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    hey guys cnn says we're in a bear market!

  • neon ๐Ÿ„
    Jan 12, 2021
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    hey guys cnn says we're in a bear market!

    CNN missed the dip

  • neon ๐Ÿ„
    Jan 12, 2021

    number go green

  • Jan 12, 2021

    if this makes anyone feel better i somehow ended up selling at the absolute bottom lmao one fortnite game and i'd be in this

  • neon ๐Ÿ„
    Jan 12, 2021
    lnstinct

    https://medium.com/fei-protocol/introducing-fei-protocol-2db79bd7a82b @0 @Lil_Neon_Baebows

    hmm

    it sure is an interesting project

    it does a lot of things that people have issues with in defi and it's definitely different than any Stablecoin I've ever heard of in terms of mechanics

    it seems like a pretty ambitious project my biggest worry would be that something gets seriously exploited but I think it has potential and I don't see anything inherently exploitable about the system they laid out

  • Jan 12, 2021
    neon

    found this in my email lolol