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  • Nov 19, 2020
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  • Nov 19, 2020
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    Ghetto Lenny

    He makes this happen and the $50,000 student debt cancellation he will be off to a good start.

    https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1328467885279375361

    If they do a $15 minimum wage, what happens to the wages of People who currently make around $15 an hour?

    Cause If I’m somebody making double the minimum wage ($15 an hour) and suddenly literally any job will pay as much as my current job, I’m expecting an increase too lol. But if everybody’s money increases at the same time wouldn’t it just ultimately lead to inflation?

  • orangetcovid 👌🏿
    Nov 19, 2020
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    Theory

    If they do a $15 minimum wage, what happens to the wages of People who currently make around $15 an hour?

    Cause If I’m somebody making double the minimum wage ($15 an hour) and suddenly literally any job will pay as much as my current job, I’m expecting an increase too lol. But if everybody’s money increases at the same time wouldn’t it just ultimately lead to inflation?

    Really interesting take. Wonder if the guys that push this policy have thought of this. It's just like student debt. If everyone's debt is forgiven what happens to people who saved and paid out of pocket or the guys who just paid of their loans.

    At the end of the day it looks like all these welfare and social aids will benefit some more and those who don't benefit from it just have to deal with it.

  • Nov 19, 2020
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    Theory

    If they do a $15 minimum wage, what happens to the wages of People who currently make around $15 an hour?

    Cause If I’m somebody making double the minimum wage ($15 an hour) and suddenly literally any job will pay as much as my current job, I’m expecting an increase too lol. But if everybody’s money increases at the same time wouldn’t it just ultimately lead to inflation?

    inflation - no, no new money is being created. And maybe your employer will raise your wage to keep you from fleeing to an easier job, or maybe they won’t. They may raise prices, or they may cut costly corners somewhere else

    People in your position will just have deal and be happy knowing their fellow American is being paid a barely livable wage

  • Nov 19, 2020
    orangetcovid

    Really interesting take. Wonder if the guys that push this policy have thought of this. It's just like student debt. If everyone's debt is forgiven what happens to people who saved and paid out of pocket or the guys who just paid of their loans.

    At the end of the day it looks like all these welfare and social aids will benefit some more and those who don't benefit from it just have to deal with it.

    so much of the American mindset is “i want others to suffer as much as I have” and not “let’s end the suffering”

  • Nov 19, 2020
    Lou

    inflation - no, no new money is being created. And maybe your employer will raise your wage to keep you from fleeing to an easier job, or maybe they won’t. They may raise prices, or they may cut costly corners somewhere else

    People in your position will just have deal and be happy knowing their fellow American is being paid a barely livable wage

    Yeah I’m using inflation as “devaluing of money” rather than the literal inflation here. But if companies just increase costs to pay for new costs of labor for the minimum wage workers as well as people who now also expect more money, then that $15 minimum wage isn’t really worth $15 the way that it is now. Because the money has become devalued.

    And I’m not saying “I want others to suffer as much as I have”, I agree that we need to improve people’s standings. But a federally mandated minimum wage that doubles minimum wage in many areas doesn’t seem like it will be as beneficial as intended. And actually, could end up hurting the workers and class that it intends to help.

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    https://twitter.com/stevemorris__/status/1329480691285979137

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    https://twitter.com/davidpoland/status/1329480987827269638

  • Nov 19, 2020
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    orangetcovid

    Really interesting take. Wonder if the guys that push this policy have thought of this. It's just like student debt. If everyone's debt is forgiven what happens to people who saved and paid out of pocket or the guys who just paid of their loans.

    At the end of the day it looks like all these welfare and social aids will benefit some more and those who don't benefit from it just have to deal with it.

    I mean it must have been considered and deemed a nonissue among the people writing the laws. But I’m just wondering what the logic is behind it because to me it sounds like

    1) people already above minimum wage are losing as their money is devalued. Their employers may or may not increase their pay equally, different employers will react differently.

    2) small businesses are hurt by this, as their operating costs increase. Small businesses are already struggling. Small businesses that haven’t been able to properly operate all year are now going to have one of their biggest costs doubled (in certain states). The average small business doesn’t bring in enough money to handle doubling costs like this. They will have to either cut hours or raise prices, or both.

    3) corporations benefit from this. Corporations can afford to maintain lower prices to beat out small businesses who are having to raise prices. They can also afford to implement automation (self checkouts). Then once they have beat out the competition, they will raise prices.

  • orangetcovid 👌🏿
    Nov 19, 2020
    Theory

    I mean it must have been considered and deemed a nonissue among the people writing the laws. But I’m just wondering what the logic is behind it because to me it sounds like

    1) people already above minimum wage are losing as their money is devalued. Their employers may or may not increase their pay equally, different employers will react differently.

    2) small businesses are hurt by this, as their operating costs increase. Small businesses are already struggling. Small businesses that haven’t been able to properly operate all year are now going to have one of their biggest costs doubled (in certain states). The average small business doesn’t bring in enough money to handle doubling costs like this. They will have to either cut hours or raise prices, or both.

    3) corporations benefit from this. Corporations can afford to maintain lower prices to beat out small businesses who are having to raise prices. They can also afford to implement automation (self checkouts). Then once they have beat out the competition, they will raise prices.

    Yea really interested in how this pans out

  • soccerfanj ⚽
    Nov 20, 2020
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    Theory

    I mean it must have been considered and deemed a nonissue among the people writing the laws. But I’m just wondering what the logic is behind it because to me it sounds like

    1) people already above minimum wage are losing as their money is devalued. Their employers may or may not increase their pay equally, different employers will react differently.

    2) small businesses are hurt by this, as their operating costs increase. Small businesses are already struggling. Small businesses that haven’t been able to properly operate all year are now going to have one of their biggest costs doubled (in certain states). The average small business doesn’t bring in enough money to handle doubling costs like this. They will have to either cut hours or raise prices, or both.

    3) corporations benefit from this. Corporations can afford to maintain lower prices to beat out small businesses who are having to raise prices. They can also afford to implement automation (self checkouts). Then once they have beat out the competition, they will raise prices.

    People will would want to work at McDonald’s more as one answer

  • soccerfanj ⚽
    Nov 20, 2020

    Imma get in my labor economics book cuz o wrote a paper for minimum wage increasing by y’all are drastically overstating the increase of mininmum wage

  • Nov 20, 2020
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    soccerfanj

    People will would want to work at McDonald’s more as one answer

    The first point I made could be reduced to that, sure. The second and third points, not really. And I know a few small business owners who would definitely be forced to increase their prices if this does go through. I live in a state where $15 would be doubling the current minimum, it wouldn’t be the same exact scenario across the country.

  • Nov 20, 2020

    Inviting Wayne county officials to the White House is worrying ngl

    Doubt they’ll get away with anything with a margin of 100k votes

  • soccerfanj ⚽
    Nov 20, 2020
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    Theory

    The first point I made could be reduced to that, sure. The second and third points, not really. And I know a few small business owners who would definitely be forced to increase their prices if this does go through. I live in a state where $15 would be doubling the current minimum, it wouldn’t be the same exact scenario across the country.

    The theory back your argument up but the research and data done by many economists have mixed reviews on this topic, skewing more to stating that minimum wage didn’t affect employment rates

    I’ll look at the book when I get home so I can see both sides of the argument

  • Nov 20, 2020
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    Newsflash: Biden won Georgia... again

  • Nov 20, 2020
    mjpplus

    Newsflash: Biden won Georgia... again

    https://twitter.com/nprpolitics/status/1329583246879895553

    😂

  • Nov 20, 2020

    All my CLB folk in here I have new found respect. Salute to you guys.

  • Nov 20, 2020
  • Nov 20, 2020
    mjpplus

    Newsflash: Biden won Georgia... again

    https://twitter.com/nprpolitics/status/1329583246879895553

  • Nov 20, 2020
    soccerfanj

    The theory back your argument up but the research and data done by many economists have mixed reviews on this topic, skewing more to stating that minimum wage didn’t affect employment rates

    I’ll look at the book when I get home so I can see both sides of the argument

    Yeah, I’ve seen conflicting results in different areas. My main concern is areas like mine where it will be a pretty dramatic increase, states that already have a higher minimum wage probably won’t experience much of a change.

  • Nov 20, 2020
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    Theory

    I mean it must have been considered and deemed a nonissue among the people writing the laws. But I’m just wondering what the logic is behind it because to me it sounds like

    1) people already above minimum wage are losing as their money is devalued. Their employers may or may not increase their pay equally, different employers will react differently.

    2) small businesses are hurt by this, as their operating costs increase. Small businesses are already struggling. Small businesses that haven’t been able to properly operate all year are now going to have one of their biggest costs doubled (in certain states). The average small business doesn’t bring in enough money to handle doubling costs like this. They will have to either cut hours or raise prices, or both.

    3) corporations benefit from this. Corporations can afford to maintain lower prices to beat out small businesses who are having to raise prices. They can also afford to implement automation (self checkouts). Then once they have beat out the competition, they will raise prices.

    i think my biggest concern is the precedent for independent contractors set in CA w prop 22 + the current economy (which was already being propped up by gig/part-time work) accelerating further in that direction due to covid; this makes increased min wage less impactful in that many wont actually see it

  • Nov 20, 2020
    Lou

    If I were a Trump fan who wanted to challenge the results frankly I’d be pissed that these are the people he picked to defend his claims. but that implies Trump ppl have any sense of awareness or critical thinking skills which is maybe giving them too much credit

    It’s cause no reputable law firm wants to represent them lol

  • Nov 20, 2020
    Lou
    https://twitter.com/stevemorris__/status/1329480691285979137

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    https://twitter.com/davidpoland/status/1329480987827269638

    My mans dripping oil like he a robot

  • Nov 20, 2020

    74 million people can f*** off tbh

  • Nov 20, 2020

    Just saw my best childhood friend on Twitter say, “a Pence/Owens (Candace) administration would be so powerful