Need to see more play out

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it's not only america who is at fault though..

Why would it? This is a good thing. Was it an poorly planned s***show? Absolutely. But America needed to get out. The MIL held Bush, Obama and Trump all by the balls, it’s a good thing Joe finally stepped up.

There was never going to be a way out of Afghanistan without the Taliban taking over. US intelligence knew this for years and continuously lied to the public up until a few weeks ago.

But It’s funny seeing conservatives so caught up in team politics trying to attack Biden for this lol

The Afghan government is extremely corrupt. Billions of US taxpayer money funneled straight into their Dubai bank accounts. All spent their entire terms lying to their people and then left them to dry. It’s no surprise nobody wants to fight for them.

America still deserves the most blame though

I dont think they wanted the image of the Taliban taking over at least when they were told that wasn't going to happen. So yeah, this is a huge blunder in the eyes of Americans

especially considering trump was claiming he wanted the same thing lol.

its good when their guy does it but bad when the other guy does it in their eyes.

i agree that its a good thing overall but i can't help but imagine that some people who have lost loved ones in the war feel angered and might sway them but idk.

yeah they want it but if something bad becomes from this then opinions will change. GWB once had the highest approval rating ever for a president in 2001.

this has really got me down, my good friend is hazara and she's feeling hopeless rn. Sad sad times

Yikes man. I hope things turn better for the future

I mean biden basically said that it wasnt last night lmao

Thanks man. Don't have much hope though. Under The Guardianship of the Islamic Jurist it is unlikely.

Wait what that was fine because they were white?

ofcourse america should get out i agree with that but the way they are going about it now and have been for a while now is absolutely disgusting and america / biden deserves all the hate hes getting and more

1. It wasnt poorly planned if it was the plan all along. It was well played

2. USA was only in Afghanistam to steal they put US western lobbyist elects in charge in Afghan government. Thats why no major s*** got done in 20 years.

3. If you follow Afghan news in recent years you will see that a number of afghan generals, high level commanders have been killed in recent years. Either assasinated or in action. They were all targets. They took the good people who cared out first to be able to pull this s*** off. Taliban is bidens choice because if you put idiots in charge it is easier to steal.

4. Taliban was avoidable. In the past 20 years there were many instances, uprisings in iran that could have resulted in regimme change but certain individuals made certain deals. Getting rid of the Guardianship of the Islamic Jurist principle in Iran is like nippin the bud. Cuts the funding to militias that cause chaos like this. But again fixing a problem they themselves caused was never USA's intention.

I was a kid at the time, never looked back on this era politically so I do not know much on the matter, but does this mean the bush administration was kinda right?
I mean it’s pretty wild that they were literally waiting for the moment we pull all the troops out, I thought we were over there doing nothing
At least that was the perception, that we need to get the troops out because we aren’t doing anything/they don’t need to be there

right as in how? like when was the right time to exit after we f***ed everything up?

F*** the bush administration i hope d*** cheney dies slow f***ing piece of s***.

Thats confirmed

talking bout the afghans want that taliban stuff like there aren't people killing themselves to leave because the taliban are forcing control on them

really after 7 months in power you gonna put 20 years of f*** s*** on him

He contributed to the 20 years of f***ups. Im not even talking about the taliban takeover when i place blame. I'm talking about the U.S. looking like losers here

american caring about the outcome of other countries for more than 2 weeks is laughable.

but he said he wasn't going to run for re-election