I think nort could benefit a lot from a fishing trip with his grandfather

you drink out the broke lead cup

A 2 day long get away

This is actually exactly what i mean

idk what im supposed to do with this

i didnt buy it

you drink out the secondhand broke lead cup

no lol im serious

did you have debate club in highschool? buddy you wouldve loved it

and what about it?

The problem is essentially that leftism and liberalism in the West became too intertwined with each other which eventually leads to non leftists having a wrong view of what leftism is about & at the same it does make Western leftists themselves become disoriented

yeah, there’s an extent of “de-programming” (cringe word) that needs to happen. I find myself in that process still at times.

Well i don’t expect you to be like, oh thats me and im a problem.
But i also dont know you like that and could be judging parts fo you wrong.

But i think it’s something to just self reflect on throughout your life and be like is this saying or action doing this? Is this actually helping the thing I want it to help? Which everybody could to some degree. Just with left wing people who are passionate about politics, its more important to do than people who just work and have a familly and dont pay attention.

Which is what I do and why i changed so much in that way

What's your opinion on tankies?

Side question: is it still socially acceptable to admit I enjoy the older episodes of Roseanne?

Nope

You’re done get her the hell out of there

Throw her in the cold and don’t give her her jacket

I did and i went once and it sucked

This is a great example of what you and ktt in généal does.

It was implied i meant an informal argument. Generally an argument is different than a formal debate. Usually fights are bad too, but a boxing match people dont have hard feeling usually. It’s the same idea.

But i feel like that was so obvious, we are talking about people liking you, not whether youre point was right. And no disagreeing with epople wont ever make them like you OR incite any change.

being a free thinker is cringe to u

Ok

Alright

I messed up

This one is on me

And complaining about these issues and the specific of leftist and liberal being brought up, its like specific techincalities that are also beside the point

Tankie is a buzz word you’d have to specify what you think it means. At this point anyone who says they’re a leftist gets called that by rightwingtards & even neo nazis so I started embracing it

I don’t know s*** about Roseanne what’s the problem with their older episodes

I’m not talking about people liking me

but my point is that you can’t “win” an informal debate, really. but its probably the best practice to avoid fallacious arguments for the sanity of whoever you’re talking to, and yourself.

Well having people like you and changing their minds was the context on what you responded to

Im well aware you weren’t talking about that

people who call themselves “free thinkers” or deprogrammed are usually not that

That's the issue I'm not sure what it is exactly but some people say it's bad and others say it's not bad

People hate Roseanne because they say she's a racist