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  • Br00ses 🐣
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    So Elon tells people to stop being overly focused on one of the biggest atrocities of all time that targeted Jewish people while antisemitism is ramping up and he does a gesture that looks strangely similar to a Nazi solute

    Combined with being pals with Kanye and trump and repeatedly dropping edgy memes and takes that the alt right supports

    If you say you can't see why people think that's off I think you're being disingenuous

  • Nort 💫
    Br00ses

    So Elon tells people to stop being overly focused on one of the biggest atrocities of all time that targeted Jewish people while antisemitism is ramping up and he does a gesture that looks strangely similar to a Nazi solute

    Combined with being pals with Kanye and trump and repeatedly dropping edgy memes and takes that the alt right supports

    If you say you can't see why people think that's off I think you're being disingenuous

    And he’s acting like I’m being dismissive, solely because it doesn’t agree with my viewpoint.

    Like cmon man..

  • Prez 💎
    Huge bmass Fan

    He said “Children aren’t responsible for the SINS of their grandparents”, not “hey the holocaust was good” :​

    I am lacking context because I don’t know about German politics. I think that was elon addressing a specific German political party but I have no idea what was going on there

    HOWEVER I will say to your point, I watched that short clip which was a quick edit of like 30 seconds of his words and I didn’t find it to overly offensive. I would need to watch the longer version to judge it. But I didn’t watch that short edited clip and think it was awful or unacceptable. It may have been tone def idk because it was such a short edit

    I don’t think he said the word holocaust unless I missed it

    My Judgment of this clip is i unable to make a judgment without further digging which I am not going to do right now

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    Br00ses

    So Elon tells people to stop being overly focused on one of the biggest atrocities of all time that targeted Jewish people while antisemitism is ramping up and he does a gesture that looks strangely similar to a Nazi solute

    Combined with being pals with Kanye and trump and repeatedly dropping edgy memes and takes that the alt right supports

    If you say you can't see why people think that's off I think you're being disingenuous

    I can see why people would think it. I never said I couldn’t. People can create any narrative and make it sound really convincing, while ignoring any detail that goes against that narrative.

    All I’m saying is there’s no real evidence that he’s in support of doing what the Nazis did. If he stood on stage and said “white supremacy, yeah. Kill all Jews and minorities” or if there was any evidence of him being involved in those things, then I would without a doubt agree.

  • Huge bmass Fan

    I just googled this. Tbh, I didn’t even know his child’s name before googling. I can’t find a single source comparing it to Nazis though. Can you tell me more?

    Theres his freikorps pontificating over the name

    "Nazi eugenicists cited ancient Greek precedent, including Lycurgus, to justify killing disabled people. . "

  • Br00ses 🐣
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    Huge bmass Fan

    I can see why people would think it. I never said I couldn’t. People can create any narrative and make it sound really convincing, while ignoring any detail that goes against that narrative.

    All I’m saying is there’s no real evidence that he’s in support of doing what the Nazis did. If he stood on stage and said “white supremacy, yeah. Kill all Jews and minorities” or if there was any evidence of him being involved in those things, then I would without a doubt agree.

    Oh

    I think we agree then actually

    I don't think there's concrete evidence that Elon musk is a Nazi or anything like that

  • But I can see why someone would have their suspicions

  • I think he's just a 4channer

    Not like a hardcore political Nazi

    Probably just shares some of the same political takes as them but isn't fully in the Nazi camp

    Like a leaning right centrist basically

  • That's the most realistic thing to assume to me

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  • Prez 💎
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    frenchpress

    Don’t go to North Korea bro u will probably never come back

  • Nort 💫
    frenchpress

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    Br00ses

    Oh

    I think we agree then actually

    I don't think there's concrete evidence that Elon musk is a Nazi or anything like that

    Yeah. Could Elon be a Nazi? Definitely. But I think calling someone a Nazi is a very serious accusation that shouldn’t be thrown around lightly. I have a much higher threshold to do that than most it seems.

  • Prez

    Don’t go to North Korea bro u will probably never come back

    perhaps it is there that i will start a new life. but i appreciate your concern, prez.

  • bon voyage!

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    elon a dork

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  • Huge bmass Fan

    Yeah. Could Elon be a Nazi? Definitely. But I think calling someone a Nazi is a very serious accusation that shouldn’t be thrown around lightly. I have a much higher threshold to do that than most it seems.

    ppl in the US have lived so long without actual meaningful conflict entering people's minds that the bar for calling someone a nazi is very low. that's just how the word is used now. it's reliant on symbols and inferences cus Action isn't even really a consideration in the definition anymore

    which to me
    is really funny

  • XCX Spice

    elon a dork