It's interesting how most anti-Zionist Jews happen to be Hasidic/of some other branch of Orthodox judaism.
Such Jews met with Farrakhan back in the '90s.
It's interesting how most anti-Zionist Jews happen to be Hasidic/of some other branch of Orthodox judaism.
see these were the big jewish words needed in our convo
I never implied you were, the point i'm making is the subjectivity of those words and how history shows it
I am sure we both have more humanist perspectives
humans inherently suck they ruin any idea that seems ok. see communism.
im saying if a mf beats their wife and is a alcoholic and goes to jail and finds God and is an overall better (a definition we can agree upon) person without being preachy and demeaning, just a good man who stands on business and does right, is that really a bad thing
aka I just smoked weed for the first time
i wish i could smoke weed for the first time again
her friends boyfriend works with Aiken promotions
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see these were the big jewish words needed in our convo
The argument essentially is.
Israel, which was established in the 20th century, is not the same as the one depicted in Tanakh.
The argument essentially is.
Israel, which was established in the 20th century, is not the same as the one depicted in Tanakh.
Which is why we don't support its existence.
i smoked weed for the first time 5 years ago. same era i got drunk for the first time
i didnt do any d**** in high school
The argument essentially is.
Israel, which was established in the 20th century, is not the same as the one depicted in Tanakh.
I mean yeah there are Jews that interpret it differently and do not support the existence of Israel
Would you say that represents the majority of Jews, or would you say that in general you could safely say that most Jewish people are Zionists
Which is why we don't support its existence.
I wholeheartedly support the notion that the modern-day Israel has nothing to do with what is depicted in the Tanakh.
Christianity directly condemns judging your fellow man for sinning
Being taught to do that goes against the teachings of Christianity
The existence of Israel or a "Jewish holy land" being a right for Jewish people is an idea expressed in the Torah, it can be interpreted differently, but it's not really contradicted by anything else in it.
All the bad stuff Israel is doing is bad as well but it's outside of what would make someone a Zionist or not. That core idea makes you a Zionist
I don’t disagree but we’re splitting hairs here. My comparison doesn’t work on this hyper-specific level, yeah. I just wanted to make the point that both books don’t do much in justifying homophobia and christianity, and a lot of that heavy lifting is more cultural/political.
I mean yeah there are Jews that interpret it differently and do not support the existence of Israel
Would you say that represents the majority of Jews, or would you say that in general you could safely say that most Jewish people are Zionists
Most Jewish people -- especially in the US -- are Zionists, I'd think.
The argument essentially is.
Israel, which was established in the 20th century, is not the same as the one depicted in Tanakh.
whats the israel depicted in Tanakh?
Most Jewish people -- especially in the US -- are Zionists, I'd think.
especially in the US is interesting
especially in the US is interesting
Israel has the US by the balls
whats the israel depicted in Tanakh?
It's also depicted as the promised land.
The thing is there has to be the appearance of Messiah first before establishing it.
Israel has the US by the balls
Absolutely
but I’m wondering if that implies there’s a less overwhelming consensus of jewish people supporting israel in other countries.
Israel has the US by the balls
Like even non Jews in powerful positions are mostly Zionists of course most of the Jews here are too