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    Orangutan

    I'm certainly no marxist scholar, but I think socialism is almost always considered the stepping stone to communism, but socialism is still a broad term because some socialists think it's gonna take 500 years to transition to communism while others think it'll take 50, some want to achieve it by reforming capitalism, others by revolution, etc. etc.

    That s***s really not my forte though I'm kinda talking out of my ass

    my undertsanding from my like 6 or 8 economics and buisness courses ive taken is that in marx, communism is the end goal of socialism.

    but communism can only exist in a post scarcity society, which is currently impossible unless we mine like asteroid and colonize planets and s*** lol. so people who read marx and think communism how its laid out in marx is a solution to modern issues, is like seeing someone drowning and instead of helping them saying they might evolve gills someday lol

    i think a lot of people who support socialism dont do it with the intention of a communist revolution tho.

    also almost all societies are mixed societies, meaning they pick and take characteristics from command, democratic, socialist societies etc. very few are just one of these things. i think most people who support “socialism” are just people who want more wealth equality, social supports and workers rights.

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    Br00ses

    Socialists are just overly idealistic communists or communists that don't want to admit it

    I'll have to take you word for it, not educated enough to feel opinionated about it

  • Brick Spice

    cuz cute

    So ur always in style

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    Orangutan

    I'll have to take you word for it, not educated enough to feel opinionated about it

    Bad choice I'm speaking based on vibes

  • CutiePieHole

    So ur always in style

    no u

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    turntout

    my undertsanding from my like 6 or 8 economics and buisness courses ive taken is that in marx, communism is the end goal of socialism.

    but communism can only exist in a post scarcity society, which is currently impossible unless we mine like asteroid and colonize planets and s*** lol. so people who read marx and think communism how its laid out in marx is a solution to modern issues, is like seeing someone drowning and instead of helping them saying they might evolve gills someday lol

    i think a lot of people who support socialism dont do it with the intention of a communist revolution tho.

    also almost all societies are mixed societies, meaning they pick and take characteristics from command, democratic, socialist societies etc. very few are just one of these things. i think most people who support “socialism” are just people who want more wealth equality, social supports and workers rights.

    i dont know much about it though, all I do know is that people on the internet who have no education in economics who support a f***ing communist revolution is the most brain dead s*** ive ever heard

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    turntout

    i dont know much about it though, all I do know is that people on the internet who have no education in economics who support a f***ing communist revolution is the most brain dead s*** ive ever heard

    I mean it's a pretty easy thing to feel cool supporting until it happens probably

    They can be all mad about stuff and woke for it

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    Br00ses

    Bad choice I'm speaking based on vibes

    I was being polite. I view everything you say through a lense of immense suspicion. Plus, I watched part of a Michael Parenti lecture one time and read the first 50 pages of Capitalist Realism

  • None of them are really about it they aren't making moves they are just posting on internet about it

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    Orangutan

    I was being polite. I view everything you say through a lense of immense suspicion. Plus, I watched part of a Michael Parenti lecture one time and read the first 50 pages of Capitalist Realism

    This is rude

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    Br00ses

    I mean it's a pretty easy thing to feel cool supporting until it happens probably

    They can be all mad about stuff and woke for it

    yeah exactly. it sounds all cool to be anti capitalism and blame it for all your woes. and instead of offering realistic solutions to the usa’s war hawking, you just want “revolution” while playing videogames and posting on message boards lol

    its so foolish and none of them have the nuts to go out and do something. which is a good thing. they just wanna vent about their troubles, blame it on capitalism and be validated by people online.

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    turntout

    yeah exactly. it sounds all cool to be anti capitalism and blame it for all your woes. and instead of offering realistic solutions to the usa’s war hawking, you just want “revolution” while playing videogames and posting on message boards lol

    its so foolish and none of them have the nuts to go out and do something. which is a good thing. they just wanna vent about their troubles, blame it on capitalism and be validated by people online.

    Their #1 guy is doing twitch streams and their #1 girl is preaching about it at the grammys

    It's all silly stuff it's make believe pretend!

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    Br00ses

    This is rude

    Are you intimidated by my extensive marxist knowledge?

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    Orangutan

    Are you intimidated by my extensive marxist knowledge?

    No you were rude to me

  • Br00ses

    No you were rude to me

    I deadass forgot what we were talking about

  • idkk what too do with myself now that i have no obligations until august

  • Force myself into a psychosis by staying up until 5am daily and waking up when the sun goes down sounds ideal

  • CutiePieHole

    Force myself into a psychosis by staying up until 5am daily and waking up when the sun goes down sounds ideal

    I sometimes do this for a few months

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    Br00ses

    Their #1 guy is doing twitch streams and their #1 girl is preaching about it at the grammys

    It's all silly stuff it's make believe pretend!

    like id respect it (even tho i disagree) if ppl were like, i read marx and think when society reaches post scarcity, communism is a probable outcome. its like ok, nobody knows if we will ever reach that, or what would happen if we did. so u can take a guess thats a good as anyone else’s.

    but then be realistic and idk support politicians who are anti war, doing things to slow the wealth gap, ban lobbying etc. I get that for sure.

    a revolution in the modern day? straight retarded for sure. its no different than the internet radicalizing people on the far right

  • If kira x does his monthly thread browsing tomorrow hes gonna be mean to me so if he sees this I want it to be clear I am joking and don't have anything against the communists

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    turntout

    like id respect it (even tho i disagree) if ppl were like, i read marx and think when society reaches post scarcity, communism is a probable outcome. its like ok, nobody knows if we will ever reach that, or what would happen if we did. so u can take a guess thats a good as anyone else’s.

    but then be realistic and idk support politicians who are anti war, doing things to slow the wealth gap, ban lobbying etc. I get that for sure.

    a revolution in the modern day? straight retarded for sure. its no different than the internet radicalizing people on the far right

    If there was a revolution I'm pretty sure they would all just die

    Am I mistaken

  • Like I feel like there is a 99% chance they would all just be killed very easily until there wasn't a revolution

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    Br00ses

    If there was a revolution I'm pretty sure they would all just die

    Am I mistaken

    no youre 100% correct.

    i went to a protest at my univeirsty a couple years ago because quebec brought in a 5k a semester tax on english univeristies.

    and at the protest was a group of like 8 people who had communist signs and tried to co-opt it for themsleves.

    they were the most stereotypical, chronically online, frail people imaginable. it was hilarious. idk how else to describe it. overweight, blue hair women. super skinny frail men who couldnt make eye contact. it was like a walking stereotype

    and they randomly started chanting “WE ARE THE VICTIMS” and nobody but them repeated it

  • Americans love their treats too much to do a revolution of any kind

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    They need to find a way to work around that maybe

    Like a plan for how they wouldn't die

    I don't think posting online would help with that as much and they already have that down like they are great at that