Another reason why Kendrick is up there is because of how he covers everything and achieved everything from writing to freestyles to cyphers to battling. Come on man.

Earl is not on Mach, Roc Marciano, Ka or Kendrick's level at all. You can't drop 4 projects and be considered the best.

Who’s really on Roc’s level though. I wouldn’t even put Mach there yet.

He blazed a trail by himself and still puts out high quality stuff. We coming up on 10 years of Marcberg and he’s still in top form.

Overall I think Roc and K Dot are much alike: they put their people on, made some good money, styles are immediately recognized, some classic albums, bars after bars after bars, all the OGs know them, etc.

Business-wise, the only difference between Kendrick and Roc is one decided to stay Independent.

Craft-wise, I've never heard Roc spit a freestyle or cypher.

I forget where but I read that Thug’s prayer 2 was freestyled

But you’re absolutely right. I think Roc could benefit big time signing to a major now.

Man really said
"People dont like me cause I dont dress androgynous enough/ I nut in your grandma mouth, now thats genderfluid/ YOD the best to ever do it"

Drop everything. 2004

not talking about projects, just lyrical ability lol

How long do we think mach spends on a song? I feel like he gets the beat and is done in ten minutes, he just spits

Lupe dope too , feel like he gets forgotten about because he’s had some subpar projects but Lupe is a master at rapping

Man Lupe is like Nas. If he dropped that terrible commercial production he usually raps over and went on some raw beats he could be so much more

This is also true lmao man needs a one producer project so bad

The nigga won a f***ing PULITZER, what are you talking about lyrical ability???

Facts. Most influential figure in underground rap this decade

“The two Ds for Double Dose
2s and Ds on the Dan and Dean bubble coat
Tools’ll squeeze if you want smoke
We could mix it up and make gumbo
The snub nose Muggsy Bogues the calico Mutumbo
These ni**as talking all this mumbo jumbo
First rule of thumb, keep it a hundo”

you talking about you cant be the best w only4 projects and I'm talking about pen game, theres a top tier to that writing s*** in Earl is in it bro, he f***ing w every rapper you named

Ka has to be mentioned here. He is straight up one of the best lyricists ever. And his discography is consistently amazing

also don't care about the pulitzer because he won it for damn, I dont like damn lol, nice award tho

Put me on

Okay that's fair then

Son !! Check his albums Days With Dr. Yen Lo (which is a collab album with Preservation) and Grief Pedigree. Also refer to him on his Roc Marci features (Ephesians, Confucius)

Nope. Although I tolerate him a little more than other mainstream dudes. Kendrick just comes off slightly above generic to me

dude dropped one of the best albums of all times you cant deny that tho

Don’t get me wrong. He can spit but I’ve just don’t feel the same way about his music the way I do with guys like Mach, Roc, and DOOM. Also I wanna see Kendrick on some actual raw production rather than done radio s*** because I know for a fact he knows his s***.

I fully understand because I may bump Kenny a few times a year while I bump the rest everyday. But a top-tier lyricist doesn't have to be your favorite artist.

Tales From the Firehouse one of the best Dump Gawd group cuts