I hope teams stop giving woj info
It will all be alright bro
No
Donât punch any couches today
what does it accomplish
are other teams paying a premium to pry the guys away from their agreed contracts
seems weird
Personally I think it's just a cheeky way to boost a guys value, his agent will have another lucrative offer on the table as a plan B, accept offer from plan A and then back out on it until team from plan A gives you the money you're looking for. If they don't still go with lucrative Plan B option
Agents/Players can play this charade because what is a team gonna do most of the time?? By the time the player has backed out on the deal there's no other options/there too deep into the trade/etc. It could also be a case like this where there may be no other alternative option for the Bucks, so the likelihood of paying BB max $$'s increases
Basically, It creates emotion/desperation/worry on the opposite end of the negotiating table and sparking these feelings grants you leverage in negotiation. Scummy and especially as a Giannis fan I don't like this at all but it's smart until the NBA institutes some sort of rule change
I hope teams stop giving woj info
Just read interesting article yesterday, prob will never happen
newrepublic.com/article/120572/adrian-wojnarowski-how-basketballs-reporting-machine-gets-his-scoops
"Wojnarowski has needed more than just a strong work ethic, though, to develop the best sources in basketball. If you look closely at his columns and talk to people in the NBA, you discover that he mixes his reporting and opinion writing in improper ways, rewarding sources with flattery and punishing the uncooperative with nastiness. In fact, it often appears as though Adrian Wojnarowski lets his sourcing dictate not just the topic but also the tone of his writing. In private, NBA reporters complain endlessly about Wojnarowskiâs methods. Some of it is undoubtedly professional jealousy, but his body of work shows they also have a point.....
Wojnarowski gave up the ESPN column when he left The Record for Yahoo Sports in 2006. And he made that move at a time when the wall between news and editorial sports writing was crumbling. The wrecking ball was, largely, ESPN and its imitators. With cable packages showing every game and highlights instantly available online, fans no longer had to read the paper the next morning. They began looking to basketball reporters for scoops. Basketball journalism entered what Grantlandâs Bryan Curtis called the âTrade Rumor Era,â where âthe chief method of putting points on the board ⌠is to file a story that includes the words âleague source.ââ And in this new era, Wojnarowski thrived. He quickly realized that his position as an opinion columnist could be leveraged through favorable coverage into scoops.
In his first year at Yahoo, Wojnarowski didnât yet have the rolodex of sources to drop #WojBombs, and his work largely resembled what he had done at The Record. But he cultivated NBA sources, and news scoops began to appear alongsideâand sometimes withinâpersonal screeds. By the 2008 offseason he was fully invested in breaking news, citing âsourcesâ in 14 articles in less than a month. By the most recent trade deadline, he broke so much news that most of it didnât even end up on Yahoo Sports; he merely tweeted it out before he moved on to the next newsbreak.
If you pay attention, you can draw the lines between Wojnarowski's stories and tweets to figure out how he reports. On July 2 at 10:31 p.m., Wojnarowski posted a piece about Los Angeles Clipper Jamal Crawfordâs desire for a contract extension. It contains quotes from Crawfordâs agent Andy Miller, blatantly attempting to negotiate for a new contract through the media. Less than 30 minutes later, Wojnarowski broke the news that Kyle Lowryâanother Miller clientâwas going to re-sign with the Toronto Raptors. He even had time to get a quote from Lowry about re-signing, which almost never happens in the hyper-competitive breaking news world, where two minutes means the difference between first and irrelevant. Nine days later, after another Miller client signed a new contract, Wojnarowski tweeted âGreat success story, great contract for agent Andy Miller.â
Personally I think it's just a cheeky way to boost a guys value, his agent will have another lucrative offer on the table as a plan B, accept offer from plan A and then back out on it until team from plan A gives you the money you're looking for. If they don't still go with lucrative Plan B option
Agents/Players can play this charade because what is a team gonna do most of the time?? By the time the player has backed out on the deal there's no other options/there too deep into the trade/etc. It could also be a case like this where there may be no other alternative option for the Bucks, so the likelihood of paying BB max $$'s increases
Basically, It creates emotion/desperation/worry on the opposite end of the negotiating table and sparking these feelings grants you leverage in negotiation. Scummy and especially as a Giannis fan I don't like this at all but it's smart until the NBA institutes some sort of rule change
has it ever happened that a player agreed to a deal with team A, then reneged and accepted a higher offer with team B, before actually getting a more lucrative contract in the end from team A
like the number one rule of bad faith negotiating is you burn bridges with the opposing party lol
are there any non-lame ball podcasts ?
i tried lowe but couldn't get into it
We off Ball podcasts
Throwing Fits the only pod I listen to atm
We off Ball podcasts
Throwing Fits the only pod I listen to atm
im tryna get like the capologists ittt
has it ever happened that a player agreed to a deal with team A, then reneged and accepted a higher offer with team B, before actually getting a more lucrative contract in the end from team A
like the number one rule of bad faith negotiating is you burn bridges with the opposing party lol
It's legit happened twice before with BB's exact agent lolol
"Bogdan Bogdanovic agent historyâ
Marcus Morris (2019) agrees to 2yr/20m deal w/ Spurs. Spurs trade Bertans to Wizards to create space for Morris deal. Morris backs out of deal with Spurs and signs 1yr/15m with Knicks days later. Spurs lose Morris & Bertans.
Nemanja Bjelica (2018) agrees to deal with Sixers. Then has â2nd thoughtsâ and intends to return to play in Europe. Then flip flops again to sign a 3yr/20m deal with the Kings.
C***Town and Tim Dillon is Going To Hell are the best basketball podcasts, by a mile :â
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Ohh I see what you're saying RD, nah the plan has never worked in the long run it looks like, perhaps an intrinsic part of the plan is also getting plan B and C teams to bump up their offer after the initially renig or maybe as you said other teams just flat out paying them to do this idk, would be weird if that was the case
It's legit happened twice before with BB's exact agent lolol
"Bogdan Bogdanovic agent historyâ
Marcus Morris (2019) agrees to 2yr/20m deal w/ Spurs. Spurs trade Bertans to Wizards to create space for Morris deal. Morris backs out of deal with Spurs and signs 1yr/15m with Knicks days later. Spurs lose Morris & Bertans.
Nemanja Bjelica (2018) agrees to deal with Sixers. Then has â2nd thoughtsâ and intends to return to play in Europe. Then flip flops again to sign a 3yr/20m deal with the Kings.
that's not leveraging a higher offer from plan B to get more favorable terms with plan A though, unless you're suggesting they had deals in principle with the Knicks and Kings respectively beforehand, which there was never any indication of
Ohh I see what you're saying RD, nah the plan has never worked in the long run it looks like, perhaps an intrinsic part of the plan is also getting plan B and C teams to bump up their offer after the initially renig or maybe as you said other teams just flat out paying them to do this idk, would be weird if that was the case
only reason i could see it increasing the player's value is if it quells the team that offers a better deal's apprehensions about the players value, or if they're just explicitly paying to hamstring an opponent's free agency window
max 4 ppl itt will understand this bro
Itâs still killing me lol
Know too many people who actually talk like that
Itâs still killing me lol
Know too many people who actually talk like that
lol i feel u dont worry
only reason i could see it increasing the player's value is if it quells the team that offers a better deal's apprehensions about the players value, or if they're just explicitly paying to hamstring an opponent's free agency window
Yeah I'm just tryna theorize really, there's obviously some sort of pattern of behavior with this agent though, thats forsure
In regards to other teams paying, who in the hell was worried about 2019 Spurs getting Morris in that case lmfaoooo

look at julio man