Proud Boys and Antifa clash in Portland again

i will never stop thinking its funny that these people have these sectioned off larp wars with each other and there is 0 actual targeted attacks at the authorities, property, officials which either side claims to be against. its always them fighting in front of colleges, in the middle of civilian neighborhoods, or in walmart parking lots like this

it's f***ing embarrassing

paintball guns

lmao the police want no involvement and they just let them go at each other

Anyone that's been following the California Recall know anything about Kevin Paffrath (the only Democrat that is polling competitively on question #2)?

He seems like a dweeb influencer type, but I can't tell He was in my graduating class at UCLA I think tho lol

Update @op

honestly all of the candidates suck but it would be better than Larry Elder (smooth talking republican)

more conservative infighting

ball rolling faster these past two days

If you or anyone here wants to be the new OP just create a new thread with updated info and this thread can be locked

Robert Kennedy's alleged assassin Sirhan Sirhan was granted parole

Here's some of Lisa's research on the assassination
c-span.org/video/?459353-1/robert-f-kennedy-assassination-reconsidered

free that man

cute propaganda

They died for nothing, and now the US will post cute little photo ops of them holding babies or whatever to try and make it seem like we were there trying to spread peace or whatever the f*** it is, when those photos only exist in the first place because of the widespread destruction our "troops" caused. So yeah, i'll continue to not care about some staged photos of a soldier holding a baby when they've killed countless.

Ok? changes nothing about the fact that they died for nothing other than the fact we conducted a useless, imperialist war for 20 years, and now the US media, the ones who beat the war drums all those years ago, will now engage in propaganda to pretend we were there on some valiant mission.

We were the ones over there making babies homeless and ruining their towns. We don't get to post pictures holding babies we made homeless, who we fed to the slaughter.

You're right that tragedies are exploited by the government and by the media for photo-ops and propaganda, but come on man, feeling bad that someone lost a son or a father or a brother or sister or daughter isn't inherently propaganda. Yes, the military is a corrupt and reprehensible institution used by puppet masters to push horrible imperialist and corporate interests but pinning the machinations of an empire on the person-hood of an individual is liberal individualist ideology. Just because Israel exploits the Holocaust to escape criticism of their government doesn't make the Holocaust not tragic. You can feel bad for the families whose kids ended up killed for nothing because our government is corrupt without trying to make them out to be some type of martyr or hero. You don't have to be a sociopath and equate it in black and white. These aren't evil psychopathic politicians or bloodthirsty mercenaries, these are people whose lives were being manipulated and used as objects by a higher power that couldn't have cared less about them, and will now exploit their deaths for political gain. Feeling bad someone got killed as a result of our disgusting political corporate class is not the same as praising them as military martyrs. It's just sad someone died. It's sad that thousands upon thousands of Afghans died too, both prior to this and because of this, because of irresponsibility and outright sociopathy from our government for decades too. But that's not the fault of these people who died there, you just can't logically equate that. They're young people exploited by the same caste, they aren't part of the caste spearheading the exploitation.

it's less about feeling bad for the people who died and realizing that the propaganda machine doesn't care either way, and drumming up those sentiments is just a tactic to build towards the next strike, the next war. All in all, i feel no worse for their death than I do for the countless civilians who have lost their lives in this war, or the untold masses who have lost their lives directly because of the for profit economic system we live under. they don't deserve any extra sympathy because they signed up to be part of the marines.

Sure, of course the actual media, the institution of the military, and the government doesn't actually care about them; that goes without saying. But you can feel bad with context, you don't need to express the same crocodile tears these entities do; all expression is multifaceted, expressing sadness can be distinct from the exploitative performance of sadness expressed for ulterior motive elsewhere. Like of course they don't deserve "extra sympathy"; I don't think that's what's being asked for. I don't feel bad for them because they served a noble cause leading to their deaths, I also don't feel bad for them because I know them, or because they're marines.
I feel bad for them because they're prime examples of young clueless civilians exploited and used as inhuman pawns by a machine that actively wished death upon them so they could exploit it and further exploited their cultural miseducation and forced need for labor to accomplish their own disgusting latent interests.
I don't rank my sympathies as a hierarchy; I don't think most people do either when they think of things as they're fed information. I don't think you can quantify most emotions; they fall outside of active behavior. It'd be different if they were saying "look, these people died, so go donate to x" or something. Like yeah, using something a springboard for behavioral action is obviously different. Also of course the actual lives taken and the destruction the US ruling class has brought across Afghanistan is insanely tragic, deplorable, and criminal.
I just don't think that changes the fact that at the end of the day we have a bunch of people who died - and who will continue to die - because of our ruling class and institutions. I think that's tragic regardless of if it's the americans being forced into conscripted labor to serve a ruling class or if it's poor tribesmen being bombed by drones.