i dont think its a threat for our life time which is why i dont think its a serious threat
itd be a nice sentiment if this could be described as a learning experience lol. people with his views don't want to learn.
I was finding common ground with him on trumps tax cuts in one of the other threads. Idk we were debating in like 2 or 3 threads
Hard to keep up lol
I hope he does learn, idk. Im just trying
I was finding common ground with him on trumps tax cuts in one of the other threads. Idk we were debating in like 2 or 3 threads
Hard to keep up lol
I hope he does learn, idk. Im just trying
This is the right approach to take with these kinds of people.
Unfortunately, they have to be willing to learn, but I'm glad people like you are putting in the work trying to reach them
This is the right approach to take with these kinds of people.
Unfortunately, they have to be willing to learn, but I'm glad people like you are putting in the work trying to reach them
If i could just convince my blood red state. But i dont think thatll happen. I think they will be far easier to reason with if Biden wins this election. Showing them that America doesn't truly agree with Trump's ideology
Give or take 2 weeks later actually. People are gonna be gun totingly pissed the f*** off if trump loses for a couple weeks
i dont think its a threat for our life time which is why i dont think its a serious threat
Lmaooo
So the point of humanity's existence for the past few million years was such that we use up all of our natural resources and destroy our planet from 1900-2100 AD?
That is actually, one of the main reasons i voted for Biden.
We need people who arent trying to actively divide the country for personal gain.
I 100% understand how you feel. I live in a hick town and everyone says the exact same s*** that the person i was debating with does.
Its infuriating. I dont think im really that smart but i feel like a rocket scientist compared to people in my hometown just because i think wearing a mask is a good idea.
I had a pretty heated argument with my dad over the phone yesterday that I shouldn't have ever engaged in. It's pointless. But the moment I hear "the media is so unfair to Trump" and "the Lord wants Trump to win" as if he's somehow the relatively moral and upright option, I turn into a rabid dog.
It breaks my heart to see people I care about turn into scared, gun-toting conservative caricatures because of the lies they've been fed. You can tell it's all steeped in right wing media bullshit because the arguments all follow the same lines. They're seeds that bear fruit over time. All information works this way, positive or negative.
If i could just convince my blood red state. But i dont think thatll happen. I think they will be far easier to reason with if Biden wins this election. Showing them that America doesn't truly agree with Trump's ideology
Give or take 2 weeks later actually. People are gonna be gun totingly pissed the f*** off if trump loses for a couple weeks
While I do think it'll be slightly easier at that point, especially with all the people that'll suddenly act like they never liked the guy, I still feel like it'll be near impossible to actually break through to people when you're up against the propaganda machine that is Fox
Lmaooo
So the point of humanity's existence for the past few million years was such that we use up all of our natural resources and destroy our planet from 1900-2100 AD?
Yes. Pretty inarguable
I had a pretty heated argument with my dad over the phone yesterday that I shouldn't have ever engaged in. It's pointless. But the moment I hear "the media is so unfair to Trump" and "the Lord wants Trump to win" as if he's somehow the relatively moral and upright option, I turn into a rabid dog.
It breaks my heart to see people I care about turn into scared, gun-toting conservative caricatures because of the lies they've been fed. You can tell it's all steeped in right wing media bullshit because the arguments all follow the same lines. They're seeds that bear fruit over time. All information works this way, positive or negative.
Oh i know man. Every single member of my family will quote campaign attack ads at me as political opinions. It hurts to see bro. Like i thought you all were smarter than that.
Only member of my family who knew trump and the republicans have been full of s*** the last 4 years was my grandpa who died a couple months back. That man was born back before the emmett till incident and could still call this bullshit for what it is.
To see my family frankly become a little racist out of nowhere has been shocking to say the least.
While I do think it'll be slightly easier at that point, especially with all the people that'll suddenly act like they never liked the guy, I still feel like it'll be near impossible to actually break through to people when you're up against the propaganda machine that is Fox
True.
I dont see anything making major reform changes until the older generations of southerners die off. I know that sounds kind of harsh but theyve had these ideals programmed and ingrained in them all of their life. Trump just reawakened them.
Honestly, Mccain was such a good man for treating Obama with respect during their campaigns. Can you imagine how f***ing bad it wouldve been if he ran with this kind of rhetoric. But he knew it, he saw the possibility of it and still took his loss with dignity. He could've easily won on this s*** but chose not to because it wasn't who he is.
Astounding how low the bar has freefalled since then.
why do y'all engage with him in a serious manner
just point and laugh or put him on ignore.
im waiting for the revolution
I'm howling at that random swing at the "baby killing left" and trying to claim abortion as anti-science when it is, in fact, a medical procedure that can be truly essential for the living.
I think some of y'all just bang your dense f***ing heads on the keyboard and hope it works out
most of the time its not a "medical procedure truly essential..."
itd be a nice sentiment if this could be described as a learning experience lol. people with his views don't want to learn.
u want a revolution i dont know how anyone can take u seriously
u want a revolution i dont know how anyone can take u seriously
What I want and what is necessary are not the same
Oh i know man. Every single member of my family will quote campaign attack ads at me as political opinions. It hurts to see bro. Like i thought you all were smarter than that.
Only member of my family who knew trump and the republicans have been full of s*** the last 4 years was my grandpa who died a couple months back. That man was born back before the emmett till incident and could still call this bullshit for what it is.
To see my family frankly become a little racist out of nowhere has been shocking to say the least.
There's so much fear coming from both sides. My dad legitimately believes that the 2nd amendment will be undermined and he will have his gun taken away from him, even though we have a completely imbalanced SCOTUS full of conservative activist judges. It's so stupid.
The one thing I always try to do in political discussions, no matter who it's with, is to steer things away from deflection and whataboutisms. Like we were talking about the 100,000 votes in Harris County possibly being thrown out and his response was about liberals voting twice or some s***. OK...but what does that have to do with state legislature throwing out curbside votes? How do Biden's decisions 20 years ago justify Trump's decisions today?
Controlling the conversation that way really makes a difference and also forces people to practice a new way of thinking. Trump supporters have been trained to pass the blame onto the other party and, frankly, it's childish.
There's so much fear coming from both sides. My dad legitimately believes that the 2nd amendment will be undermined and he will have his gun taken away from him, even though we have a completely imbalanced SCOTUS full of conservative activist judges. It's so stupid.
The one thing I always try to do in political discussions, no matter who it's with, is to steer things away from deflection and whataboutisms. Like we were talking about the 100,000 votes in Harris County possibly being thrown out and his response was about liberals voting twice or some s***. OK...but what does that have to do with state legislature throwing out curbside votes? How do Biden's decisions 20 years ago justify Trump's decisions today?
Controlling the conversation that way really makes a difference and also forces people to practice a new way of thinking. Trump supporters have been trained to pass the blame onto the other party and, frankly, it's childish.
the 2nd amendment is definitely at risk its being attacked constantly and chipped away like gold currency back in the day where people chipped the corners off till it was worthless
The quoted statistic from The Economist literally said nothing about Biden winning or losing
The statistic simply said that 41% of republicans prefer to vote on election day as opposed to voting early
This doesn't mean that Biden will win/lose this just means that a good portion of republicans haven't voted yet
I’m not talking about that specific statistic.
I’m saying The Economist literally predicts Biden to win. So it’s kind of contradictory for them to have a statistic that points to Trump