Cole was also declared the next savior of rap before his debut dropped but once he dropped that weed plate of an album it left a clear opening in rap that Kendrick was able to fill. Completely took Cole's lunch and Cole's ego could never really recover from that

TFO disc 39 exists

??? This feels like revisionism cause I remember people still making sleep jokes

He followed FHD up with some very sleepy albums

FHD lowkey burnt

This is the part that the thugs skip!

Nah I'm saying for that moment people sat up like

Even leading up to the roll out, the jokes were still going on with Cole playing the album at fans houses and one of the pics had a boy passed out. But the album was pretty much well received when it came out

It’s Kendrick and then everybody else tbh

Lil Uzi famously doesn't listen to Cole so J Cole can't have classics I'm jussayin

they all 3 got at least 2 classic projects. Kendrick 3, Drake 3, Cole 2. Personally think Dot has 4, and Drake can get a 4th, and Cole can get a 3rd too, but those are more “personal” classic and can be argued as not classic

Kendrick - GKMC, TPAB, DAMN (Morale/gnx)

Drake - Take Care, NWTS, IYRTITL (Views/SFG)

Cole - FNL, 2014FHD (Born Sinner/The Off-Season)

Personally I think 2014 FHD is Cole's most well received album is because it's the only album of his where he relinquished producing the whole thing himself. If you look at the production credits on his albums his best songs are the ones where he isn't producing them himself (in my opinion)

It's a pretty good album with a couple eh songs to me (Wet Dreamz, Hello, Apparently)

I just feel like if we're gonna call this a classic we need to have a tier list of "classics" because this is a B-tier classic compared to an S-tier classic like GKMC

lets be honest here

if anyone dont agree SFG is a top 10 tape of all time yall legit delusional shaped a whole new generation of artists

Take Care is a MEGA classic , one of the best albums ever

How long do we have to keep making threads about this s*** though

It’s not in my top 10 but its a classic

Real one

I agree on the production aspect and maybe an additional take is that Cole, as successful as his career has been, is pretty limited as a producer imo

FHD was legacy defining for him but I'll have to think about where it falls in comparison to Drake's output and Kendrick's

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A classic

s*** did not happen dont worry trump is not sending his goon squad to get u if u dont agree bro

yeah, I think nearly everyone can agree on that

Do you think Apollo 12 was faked too? Which was the first real one IYO?

Completely agreed and I don't think it's a knock against Cole, maybe over ambitious is what it is, but I don't think any single human could handle it all unless they expect to take a very very long time on the album.

Handling writing, production, and mixing is just gonna burn your creative drive out and from my personal experience is just going to weaken one of the areas.

Having 2 elites at each of their craft like Gibbs and Alchemist or DOOM and Madlib will usually yield better results. Unless you're like Kanye who has an army of people / artists at his disposal for his vision, which I'm guessing Cole doesn't have

This song will go down in the pantheon of ultimate coworker classics

(I'm just kidding I really like this song)

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