Durkio World

5y

Psychedelic music is pretty marketable. We live in a d*** culture. Cudi appealed heavily to white america my guy.

Durkio World

5y

Nah fam. RTD did more. RTD is the reason NYC went back to being the face of rap after west coast dominance. Like I said before, Biggie showed rappers how to make a street rap album mainstream. A legitimate gritty or grimey street rap album. Biggie showed rappers how to make a street single commercial. The cover of RTD. RTD showed future rappers how to make records for women. It reinvented street rap for New York. That's why people started following his formula after that. Biggie also helped bridge hip-hop with R&B. Nobody was rapping like biggie was on r&b records until that one more chance remix. He's the reason niggas started doing that sht in the late 90s and 00s.

I could go on and on. Each of those albums you named are important.

Paid in full made every1 step up their lyrical game
Illmatic might be the most influential rap album ever in the sense of lyricism
36 chambers brought an energy we hadn't seen
radio was one of the first mainstream albums

But Biggie took a portion of each of these and made a complete album showing you how to fulfill every criteria or satisfy every type of fan in rap.

gnarlynasty

5y

He definitely wasn’t barbershop in any era of his career tho,I do think there’s an argument to be made about him being a terrible rapper tho

Gon_Freaks

5y

You guys are really discussing music I’m proud of you

RXHalfDeadCaliban

5y

that argument can be made and all of your reputation as a knowledgeable source on hip hop can be put under intense scrutiny.

doom is like a fine wine of a rapper tbh. pretty much the same s*** everybody drinks to turn up and do ignant s*** to( doom's lyrics ignant as hell to be real) but it takes a palette to actually enjoy.

that's really the only argument for doom being a terrible rapper.

SufiCaughtWreck

5y

But the remix wasn't on the album. The total and 112 songs weren't on RtD.

Sorry I gotta stick with my points. Radio, 36 Chambers, and 3Feet all changed production. Illmatic and PiF changed how niggas actually rapped wrote

gnarlynasty

5y

As far as pure rap goes,he’s a GOAT,as far as I know,he never modulated his voice in a song,he just rapped and gave some of the rawest performances on any rap song ever.

Wat can be argued about him being kinda overrated is that he never really actually crafted a complete song in his career,but that’s null cause that’s not his appeal. He definitely couldn’t find a way to adapt past 2009 imo either.

He’s a great on a smaller scale imo,I don’t think I can put him up there as a GOAT in the same place as Jay,Nas,Biggie,Pac etc.

gnarlynasty

5y

As far as pure rap goes,he’s a GOAT,as far as I know,he never modulated his voice in a song,he just rapped and gave some of the rawest performances on any rap song ever.

Wat can be argued about him being kinda overrated is that he never really actually crafted a complete song in his career,but that’s null cause that’s not his appeal. He definitely couldn’t find a way to adapt past 2009 imo either.

He’s a great on a smaller scale imo,I don’t think I can put him up there as a GOAT in the same place as Jay,Nas,Biggie,Pac etc.

Durkio World

5y

I mean sure but the remix came out at the height of the album so I'll admit I did treat it like it's synonymous with RTD.

All of those albums changed the production of rap albums it wasn't just the two you named. And RTD definitely changed how rappers wrote. It gave us Jay Z for starters...

SufiCaughtWreck

5y

Can say a few albums gave us Jay-Z

SufiCaughtWreck

5y

Can say a few albums gave us Jay-Z

SufiCaughtWreck

5y

Is Fancy Clown not a complete song? Doomsday? Beef Rapp? Kon Queso?

gnarlynasty

5y

In ways they are but when I say “complete song” i mean doom rapping hooks,bridge and all. He’s just rapped on a beat and called his whole career

RXHalfDeadCaliban

5y

Doom and commercial just don't mix that man's a mad lad rapping for the sport. an old poster on ktt said he used to live in a tent in VA and inside the tent the nigga would write all of his bars down. The tent would be covered in f***ing bars.

that type of popularity and career trajectory hurts him against GOAT's but outside of that. Doom a top candidate.