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This is a very interesting question because if you've been a CS Armstrong fan, you know bro is Blues, rocked all the way down

are there legit R&B sounding songs in his catalog? Sure. But from just how bro sings to the way he phrases his vocals, I wouldn't categorize him as an R&B singer but more Blues/Rock/Gospel.

What yall think? I was gonna make a thread towards the end of the year about how bro one of the most underrated artists of 2023 cause bro been dropping HEAT literally all year.

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Yea. I hate that s*** too. For example, I feel the same way about media outlets claiming Genesis Osuwu is Hip Hop

He'll have Hip Hop and Neo-Soul elements here and there but he is truly a Post-Punk/Alternative artist honestly.

R&B is just an updated version of the term race music because it was no longer politically correct to use in the 50s. So he’s right that he gets put in that bracket because he’s black

It’s cause he’s black. Let him make pop, it will be called progressive R&B. Let him make something that doesn’t have hiphop or pop elements, it will be called alternative R&B

let a nigga make full ass rock it's just "alternative"

Yeah r&b is just rock and pop when it’s made by black people basically

The whole label of r&b as a genre is racist and it’s really hard to define what separates rock/pop from r&b other than race

This Osuwu guy seems nice, need to check it out

Also this dude is cooking COOKING
Absolutely great take. I've been having this same debate with the voices in my head, take Teezo, Jean Dawson and Paris Texas for example. Are they hip-hop/r&b artists or are they just black?

nah he does make a great point

a lot of black singers are automatically considered r&b just because they sing

and a lot of black artists in general are forced into the hip-hop box even whey don’t really rap

I don't think it's that hard to define what separates the 2.
Just give visual examples

versus

(it's a rock song. Full on. SZA is an R&B singer too but this is a straight up rock song)

Fka Twigs also spoke on this

“It’s just because I’m mixed race. When I first released music and no one knew what I looked like, I would read comments like: ‘I’ve never heard anything like this before, it’s not in a genre.’ And then my picture came out six months later, now she’s an R&B singer,” she said.”

Also what do yall think about the term "POC rock" as in "people-of-color rock"
Seen it on spotify and it made sick, made by white people it's just rock but made by black people it's something else?

She actually does make rnb
She can thank her producers for the “uniqueness” in her music

FKA Twigs, Tyler the Creator etc. We've seen it before, we know what it is already

Poc rock is crazy lol. They do have “blue eyed soul” for white r&b artists though.

Move to CS (Armstrong)

No f***ing way
Blue eyed soul?

mfs segregating music in the 21st century

Yeah bro

S*** like Teena marie, Jon B and even Adele

Twigs produces a lot of her own songs btw you f***ing nimrod

Which ones?

Adele?! R&B?!
I'm so done bro