uhhhh I think you're missing something. I don't think Shanks knew the devil fruit he stole all those years ago from Who's Who(who at the time of guarding the Gomu Gomu no Mi was working for the WG) was this legendary devil fruit. Shanks meeting with the Gorosei right before the Wano arc I think was to talk about Luffy. I think, just like Kaidou, Shanks noticed the stuff Luffy was doing was not something rubber could do. I think a lot of people who keep saying the stuff you just did forget about the conversation Shanks and the Gorosei had off screen and what Who's Who said. I also think we have to assume that it probably is an actual Gomu Gomu no Mi fruit out there and the WG probably didn't think Luffy ate this Mythical fruit.

I think Shanks somewhere down the road became a double agent for the WG. I don't think anybody in the WG knew Luffy had this fruit. They probably thought he ate the standard rubber fruit. This would explain why they just thought Luffy was some pirate causing pirate chaos and never really went after him except for when they wanted Robin. This would also explain why the full force of the WG was sent to Wano to get Luffy. From this point on Luffy and his entire crew will probably have a cross hair on them from the WG.

This makes the most sense

I think people wasn't paying attention to those three crucial events. Who's Who thought he was guarding just a normal devil fruit or the regular Gomu Gomu fruit. Then you have shanks having his conversation with the Gorosei. The third conversation seems to pick up where it left off after Shanks left the Gorosei and seemed to have filled in the gaps of why the WG was in Wano.

To me it seems like Shanks went to the Gorosei and explained that Luffy is displaying powers that isn't typical of rubber and may have the fruit they're looking for(Chapter 907). The Who's Who conversation(1017) to me tells me that it seems like the WG, not the Gorosei has changed the name of the Human Human Fruit: Nika to the Gomu Gomu fruit to confuse people into thinking it's just a normal rubber fruit and if eaten they won't go looking to awakening it until the WG can get their hands on it. Shanks seems like he didn't know the fruit was special either just like Who's who. I think Shanks only recently (post-time skip) found out what the fruit actually was.

The third conversation(Chapter 1038) before they explain what the fruit Luffy has, was the Gorosei conversation saying how the WG changed the fruit name in order to wipe it from history and that not even they have seen the fruit. The fruit is only dangerous when it awakens. So they didn't see Luffy as a threat because the fruit is just a basic rubber fruit. They also explained that they originally sent the Marines to Wano in order to take out Robin. When it was reported that Luffy may take out Kaido they told CP-0 to kill Luffy because they can't afford to lose another Yonko. I don't think they know Luffy has awakened yet.

The fourth conversation what we got this chapter explaining the back story of the fruit.

great chapter damn

Reading the wiki it says that WG changed the hito hito no mi model Nika fruit to gomu gomu no mi to keep its real identity hidden.

I don’t think there’s a actual gomu gomu fruit out there.

Nah if you go to the official translation chapter I listed, they specifically said they did this to erase the actual fruit from history. Ala apart of the void century wipe. That's why I believe they changed the fruit name to Gomu Gomu to throw people off and pawn it off as another fruit similar to it. That's why I said in another post for all we know it might actually be a paramecia rubber fruit out there.

But even then they said the fruit is only dangerous if it's awakened.

Damn how is this post being overlooked. Grandline review did a whole video explaining how no one should really be surprised. It was foreshadowed the whole time. People just overlooked a lot of plot and small details.

When i mentioned shanks i was moreso talking about the fact that a relatively innocuous pirate like chapter 1 shanks was able to get such a treasure while the wr couldnt and thought of it as unthinkable going by the story's logic. I also dont think that if shanks was telling the gorosei about luffy that it would've been news to them. Who's who and now the gorosei mentioned they've been looking for the gomu gomu no mi specifically for 800 years, so they would know its powers before shanks was even born. And also, i doubt shanks would know anything about nika and the full extent of the gomu gomu no mi abilities

At the end of the day oda f***ed up in realizing after 1000 chapters he wanted to make the gomu gomu no mi more important than it was at first. That's the only inconsistency really

Btw i find dope how with each new chapter oda is making us revisit old ass chapters to debate about the new lore bits and recontextualize them, he knows how to keep a community engaged

With the limited info we have atm I’m ok with the argument that the elders has been trying and failing for 800 years and it has yet to awaken It isn’t implausible that the elders assumed it wouldn’t rn either making it not a priority.

The elders with a lot on their plate post time skip seeing Luffy disrupting one of the three great powers was a cause for real concern.

Bro huh? Oda literally filled in the blank of where Shanks got the devil fruit from with Who's Who backstory. I also think you need to go back and read chapter 1. Oda has always made it seem like it was more to Shanks than what meets the eye. He wasn't a Yanko yet, but he was very well known at the time. Even the mountain bandits were terrified once they realized it was the red-haired pirates.

The ship Shanks stole the Gomu Gomu from WAS the ship Who's Who was guarding. It was in the WG hands(Who's Who was in CP-9 at the time). It should be noted at this point that the WG and the Gorosei are two different entities. Who's who never said the WG hasn't seen the fruit(check chapter 1017). Who's who doesn't know it was the legendary fruit. He explained to Jinbei that he was originally the strongest in CP-9 and was given a special task, it was to transport the Gomu Gomu no Mi to the WG headquarters. Along the way Lucky Roo and Shanks stumbled upon the ship and stole it. At the time Shanks didn't know it was a special devil fruit either. They just thought they were plundering a marine ship. Who's who holds a grudge against shanks because that day was when Who's Who was thrown into Impel down for failing this super secret mission. In impel down, Who's Who said that's where he learned about Nika from a guard. He said the next day that guard was disappeared. He believed he was just transporting a regular devil fruit back to the WG.

It was the Gorosei who said the fruit wasn't seen "awakened"(keyword here) in 800 years(chapter 1037) and the WG changed its name to the Gomu Gomu to erase the fruit's true existence from history(Void Century only higher ups in the WG know about this and events that's taken place between then and now). Shanks telling them that Luffy has the fruit and seems like he's on the verge of awakening it would be news to them because like I said the Gorosei said the fruit hasn't been awakened in 800 years not that it hasn't been seen in 800 years. They also said that every time they're about to get they're hands on it something happens and it evades them hence them joking that it probably has a mind of its own.

Nah I fully believe Shanks now know about Nika and what the Gomu Gomu is. Like I said I believe he's a double agent at this point and between marineford and Wano he's learned a lot more information on what's going on.

I'm going go out on a limb and wouldn't be surprised if the Shanks was actually the real leader of CP-0 or another secret government group. Not to many people can just walk into Marjois and speak directly to the Gorosei without an all out war happening. I wouldn't be shocked at all.

Shanks movie still in august right ?

I think sooo

Thabk you for the correction about the wr actually having the gomu gomu at one point, i totally forgot about that, but the other point i had stands. Near awakening or not, the wr wants the gomu gomu regardless, otherwise they wouldnt have been looking for it specifically. You can argue that they didnt want to kill luffy because that would've made the abilities transfer to another fruit, but all you need is have like an apple the closest it can be to luffy as they kill him and the problem is solved, and also i dont think they would even like the small chance he could awake his powers, especially since this kid has done already a lot as a pirate, i dont think they needed shanks to tell them about luffy's potential awakening, also because shanks doesnt know much more about luffy's current abilities and conditions than the gorosei who have access to intelligence, marine etc.
At the end they actually did want to kill him seemingly out of nowhere a handful of chapters ago when they gave the order to the cp0 agent. Maybe they sensed he would've awoke the devil fruit in moments, but even then, it was safer to kill him earlier, when they could

Also i want to know how did shanks find out about nika and the true gomu gomu and s*** if that was what he told the gorosei

mfs cant say Wano is too long or boring NOW

Wano is perfect length . Week to week it might feel like that but after binging since i was behind . There is literally nothing i would take out

WAIT A MINUTE

Luffy died, revived, and Zunesha noted that "Joy Boy has returned". It was revealed his fruit is really the Human-Human Fruit, Model: Nika, a mythical zoan, so we can connect Joy Boy to Nika. It was said that the fruit brought smiles to people everywhere that Joy Boy/Nika went. "Kaido's" name translates to "Joy Boy" and he's famous for monopolizing the artificial zoan devil fruits known as...

should've known luffy was a zoan when all his attacks post-timeskip are named after various animals

This new chapter gotta be one of the wildest asspulls in history.

Human Human Fruit? GTFOH

grandline has great content

official translation today

the gorosei still refer to it as the gomu gomu no mi

and its not an ass pull

if anything, everything has fallen into place, from how skypiea was supposed to be one of the final sagas to how every post time skip major arc has a reference to sun worship all the way to god complex villains like enel and doffy