And they still got mopped by her. If Oda didn’t have her turn her back for one then not even use ACoC coating as well... they don’t make it out of Wano.

Which also begs the question of why the f*** does Kidd have confirmed conquerors if he never uses it for defense or offense?

We never even see him (or law for that matter) use visual armament. And there is 0 chance that they aren’t using or that they can’t use it. But whatever side characters gonna side character I guess.

Urouge allergic to ugly, it would never work

The fact that he hasn’t been utilized for this long and we’re in the final saga just means his story impact gonna be CRAZY (hopium)

Yea but that's exactly what I'm saying. Big mom being that nerfed during that whole fight doesn't make sense other than for plot reasons imo

That whole situation of big mom being in wano as well just seems kinda odd and not really thought through imo
I mean, don't get me wrong it was hype af seeing 2 yonko in one arc, and the rooftop was amazing. But big moms fight vs kidd and law and also the big mom pirates being absent the whole arc for some stupid reasons just makes this decision of including big mom in wano kinda weird in hindsight

I’m just thinking that every yonko has had a supernova working under them so urouge and Blackbeard makes the most sense and I don’t really know how else urouge fits in the story

SHANKS

He probably just chillin on a sky island high af living the good life

Big Mom and Kaido alliance made perfect sense

Lol I never said it didn't make sense...
Just the execution on odas part wasn't really thought through perfectly imo
That's why he had to nerf big mom in her final battle and come up with those stupid reasons to keep the bm pirates out of the arc

they say Kidd had bad luck, but instead he was the luckiest for the longest... He tanked (didn't die) after that Big Mom punch

BM Pirates had to stay to protect her territory

Big Mom was definitely nerfed but so was Kaido and Whitebeard

He had to nerf them in order to start the new generation

Law and Kidd didn’t really even beat Big Mom imo

They tricked her

But I don’t think we’ve seen the last of those 2 knowing Oda

But the big mom pirates were already in wano... They just fell down the waterfall a couple times and then disappeared lmao

Oh you talking about Smoothie and some of the others

Even if they landed idk what they would of done

That's not the point tho but whatever
I just thought we're used to better conclusions and storytelling that makes more sense by oda normally imo

Personally feel their only purpose was to escort Big Mom to the island

Yea definitely feels like that

Law is cooked

NOOOOO

Garp hurry

Please save my nigga man