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  • Nov 24, 2023
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    KingOfPop

    If this is all true, why is the only mention of this photo of Jonathan Spence in this prosecution motion?

    Jonathan chose not to testify. Doesn't change the fact that his photo along with books of naked kids was found in Michael's bedroom. Of course you won't address that. Either you're too delusional to see the truth or you're disregarding the facts. Either way, s*** is sick bro

  • Nov 24, 2023

    November 1993 - MJs motion to stay was denied.
    variety.com/1993/biz/news/jackson-told-to-cooperate-in-civil-trial-116092

    Anything in discovery was fair game for the prosecution and they could build their case around the discovery:
    latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-12-18-me-3080-story.html

    Californian law - Jordan was under 14 so entitled to a 120 day fast trial:
    https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=CCP§ionNum=36

    MJs right to a fair trial was violated multiple times.

    There is no case in legal history this happened before, or since.

  • Nov 24, 2023

    Bonus round, if the description was a match, why did we need so many descriptions?

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    Slutdog

    Jonathan chose not to testify. Doesn't change the fact that his photo along with books of naked kids was found in Michael's bedroom. Of course you won't address that. Either you're too delusional to see the truth or you're disregarding the facts. Either way, s*** is sick bro

    Testifying or not, you imbecile, Child p***ography is illegal.

    The prosecution never once proved the existence of this photograph.

    A basic understanding of prosecution motions would help here.

    The only thing submitted was the art books. The photo was never mentioned again. Odd.

    Direct quote from 1993s search:
    “the search warrant didn’t result in anything that would support a criminal filing”

    Nice try.

  • Nov 24, 2023
    ABCDEF

    @KingOfPop rn

    You know when you resort to posting actual Californian legislature it's real out here.

    No pedo fan fiction or clipped sound bites.

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    'Michael Jackson's book collection was so grotesque and vile' - Simpletons and the media

    They tried it several times with this 'big bad library' and even the artist of one of the pieces had to call it out and say it was made after his death. LOL

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    KingOfPop

    Testifying or not, you imbecile, Child p***ography is illegal.

    The prosecution never once proved the existence of this photograph.

    A basic understanding of prosecution motions would help here.

    The only thing submitted was the art books. The photo was never mentioned again. Odd.

    Direct quote from 1993s search:
    “the search warrant didn’t result in anything that would support a criminal filing”

    Nice try.

    It's because the books of naked children (1 of which were published by a known pedophile) which Michael had were technically "legal" and considered "art". That was the same reasoning for the photo of Jonathan. That it was just art and not sexual. I wanted to discuss facts with you but you are leaning deeply into the realm of conspiracy theory to protect your idol. I positioned the facts and now you're trying to act like the photo of a naked boy which was found in a raid of Michael's bedroom didn't even exist lmfao...

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    Slutdog

    It's because the books of naked children (1 of which were published by a known pedophile) which Michael had were technically "legal" and considered "art". That was the same reasoning for the photo of Jonathan. That it was just art and not sexual. I wanted to discuss facts with you but you are leaning deeply into the realm of conspiracy theory to protect your idol. I positioned the facts and now you're trying to act like the photo of a naked boy which was found in a raid of Michael's bedroom didn't even exist lmfao...

    Found in a raid or mentioned once in a prosecution motion and never brought up again. Lol. Again, simple questions. Why only the one mention? If they can bring the books to court, why not these photographs?

    The books are available on Amazon. Read MJs inscription to know what he thought.

    It's conspiracy, much like the Arvizo's being kidnapped (bet you know nothing about that either).

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    This is the guy that everyone was calling for in the first pages? This man is just a mentally ill fanboy. I'm cool if you want to be a fan of his music regardless of his personal life but going to these lengths to defend him when the facts are in your face...

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    Slutdog

    This is the guy that everyone was calling for in the first pages? This man is just a mentally ill fanboy. I'm cool if you want to be a fan of his music regardless of his personal life but going to these lengths to defend him when the facts are in your face...

    What facts? A repeated prosecution motion with no wider understanding?

    It's pedo fiction, you're a troll and hopefully those interested in the cases have learnt something from the vast resources I've posted debunking your bullshit.

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    KingOfPop

    'Michael Jackson's book collection was so grotesque and vile' - Simpletons and the media

    They tried it several times with this 'big bad library' and even the artist of one of the pieces had to call it out and say it was made after his death. LOL

    damn

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    KingOfPop

    Found in a raid or mentioned once in a prosecution motion and never brought up again. Lol. Again, simple questions. Why only the one mention? If they can bring the books to court, why not these photographs?

    The books are available on Amazon. Read MJs inscription to know what he thought.

    It's conspiracy, much like the Arvizo's being kidnapped (bet you know nothing about that either).

    Again, you are going into the realm of conspiracy theory. I provided the facts and you're acting like it's not real. You're literally the clinical definition of delusional. No I'm not going on Amazon to search for books of naked kids. That's not my vibe

  • Nov 24, 2023
    SegaDreamFlash

    damn

    You'd be surprised. It's such a shame people fall for it.

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    Slutdog

    Again, you are going into the realm of conspiracy theory. I provided the facts and you're acting like it's not real. You're literally the clinical definition of delusional. No I'm not going on Amazon to search for books of naked kids. That's not my vibe

    It's not a conspiracy theory, it's the actual facts as they pertain to the 2005 case.

    1108 Prior Bad Acts was brought in to try and convict Jackson using Chandler evidence because the Arvizo's were getting laughed out of court.

    The best they could bring from every single search of Neverland, offices, houses - you name it, and bring to the court, was those books.

    Put up, or shut up, as they say. They couldn't put up, so in June 13th 2005 they were made to shut up.

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    KingOfPop

    It's not a conspiracy theory, it's the actual facts as they pertain to the 2005 case.

    1108 Prior Bad Acts was brought in to try and convict Jackson using Chandler evidence because the Arvizo's were getting laughed out of court.

    The best they could bring from every single search of Neverland, offices, houses - you name it, and bring to the court, was those books.

    Put up, or shut up, as they say. They couldn't put up, so in June 13th 2005 they were made to shut up.

    I'm not sure what you hope to accomplish with this message.

    Michael Jackson owned books of naked children and a photo of a naked Jonathan Spence which he kept in a locked cabinet. These are facts.

    He slept in the same bed as children unsupervised on multiple occasions. This is a fact.

    A boy accurately described the mark under Michael's genitalia. This is a fact.

    Michael Jackson settled a 23 million dollar lawsuit after these results came out (of which he had to take out a loan to pay). This is a fact.

    Michael Jackson kept a lot of explicit p***ographic content on the Neverland Ranch, some of which had fingerprints from the children. This is a fact.

    You can hide from it, you can shun it, but this is reality. I'm sorry to break it to you

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    Slutdog

    I'm not sure what you hope to accomplish with this message.

    Michael Jackson owned books of naked children and a photo of a naked Jonathan Spence which he kept in a locked cabinet. These are facts.

    He slept in the same bed as children unsupervised on multiple occasions. This is a fact.

    A boy accurately described the mark under Michael's genitalia. This is a fact.

    Michael Jackson settled a 23 million dollar lawsuit after these results came out (of which he had to take out a loan to pay). This is a fact.

    Michael Jackson kept a lot of explicit p***ographic content on the Neverland Ranch, some of which had fingerprints from the children. This is a fact.

    You can hide from it, you can shun it, but this is reality. I'm sorry to break it to you

    That man had so much p***ography he made Beat It

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    Nah but he’s innocent. That man had a pure soul. A next level pure soul, that’s for sure. How else could he make the music he did and touch billions of lives. Indisputable facts

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    And guess what OP you know you’re a f***ing goofy who should kill themselves. God is watching you and wondering why he created such a f***ing peon. Delete your account

  • Nov 24, 2023

    Kinda crazy that he had lawsuits levelled against him and allegations were made but it didn’t affect his career or status all that much and people still ride for him.

    No idea if he’s guilty but imagine if these kind of allegations were made against a pop star now. They would get crucifixes and their career would be over

  • Nov 24, 2023
    AshTheRobot

    Possible. Gonna be honest. I love his music. And because nothing was definitively proven, I feel more comfortable listening to his music and not worrying about it.

    Even if he didn't touch kids; absolutely nobody would give some of the stuff he was doing the benefit of doubt if he wasn't Michael Jackson lol.

    If your next door neighbor Phil was having slumber parties with middle school boys; you would just call him a pedo. You wouldn't care about his story about not having a childhood lol.

    I feel like ppl bring up the fact that parents and ppl lied, a lot. Ignoring the fact that it's completely possible MJ was a pedo; while the families also tried exploiting him for money. 2 things could be true.
    Also possible that he was attracted to children, and just never acted on it in an extreme way.

    We'll never truly know if he was innocent at the end of the day though

    Most reasonable take itt

  • Nov 24, 2023
    HORIZONS

    Nah but he’s innocent. That man had a pure soul. A next level pure soul, that’s for sure. How else could he make the music he did and touch billions of lives. Indisputable facts

    charlie sheen, kevin spacey core type defence lol

  • Nov 24, 2023

    watch Square One documentary its on YouTube

    not op tho hes a goner

  • Nov 24, 2023

    In this day and age they would cook him just for the things he admitted to doing. You cant sleep and cuddle with little boys you have no relation to.

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