Malakas

9mo

Was it a coincidence that Christmas Adventurers Club abbreviates to c\*\*\*:hah:

Vicko77

9mo

The media iliteracy woke people have is insane lmao, especially cuz is all based on puritanism; if a black woman is a h**** freak then for some reason they think the writer/director is saying all black women are h**** freaks

If a white supremacist with a black women fetish fetishizes black women, then the writer/director is fetishizing black women

Is the most braindead thing in the world.

Antidote

9mo

The look on Lockjaw's eyes right when he realizes he is about to die

CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

9mo

I believe it's more than just media illiteracy from breadtube or just people wanting Puritanism from Teyana's character. The sentiment isn't coming from nowhere. This is a long but good read that gives context to some of these concerns, regardless of where you fall with Perdita's portrayal. It's important to not be dismissive about such issues:

https://jimcrowmuseum.ferris.edu/jezebel/index.htm

NunTheWiser

9mo

Why would you need to have empathy for an aspiring Nazi who fetishizes Black women to the point that he’s prepared to lock her up in a house the rest of her life, control her every move, so that he can have a living locked up s***machine to satisfy his racist fetish.

Really just baffled by this reading of someone walking away from this and being like “one big problem is I didn’t feel empathy for Lockjaw”

Okay?

Nero 92

9mo

I don't even feel as strongly as FD but you can't tell me that PTA's fetishes didn't bleed into the movie or that it isn't weird that Teyana's character is supposed to be Assata Shakur inspired yet she's completely incompetent.

Unity

9mo

Paul Schrader lost his mind a long time ago

Every time I see the latest stupid ass thing he wrote or said I just remind myself he made Mishima and move on

Vicko77

9mo

yeah let's just ignore that The Master has the most predatory, horniest, sexualized and sexually perverted maln character ever put on film... and it's a white male. But if you make a movie with multiple black women and ONE of them is a sexually perverted freak (just like the multiple white male characters her author previously wrote) then BUM, not ir's a race/gender issue.

Amazing how the human mind works.

CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

9mo

historically speaking, the white male has been the default for a hot minute in terms of homogeneity in media and grace extended to them, which is the entire point why some of these concerns are being raised when you understand that this same grace does not extend to minorities, and especially black women.

There's always been room for exploring sexuality through the lens of black women, which is why you never heard people really complaining about Insecure (the HBO series) yet it dabbles into sexuality way more than this film did. To say that people just wanna box Teyana's character into a puritanical box is dismissive at best and disingenuous at worst. Also, there's no need to label that character a "sexually peverted freak"; that's not necessary.

NeonNigga23

9mo

i appreciate your perspective on this

maxxing

9mo

Agreed that it’s not bob and the poster/billing can fool you, but it feels like a classic pta film in the sense that the ensemble kinda melts together and there’s no protagonist.

Fries

9mo

I wish I could do the drumroll 'GEDDDDITUP' that Teyana does here

CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

9mo

historically speaking, the white male has been the default for a hot minute in terms of homogeneity in media and grace extended to them, which is the entire point why some of these concerns are being raised when you understand that this same grace does not extend to minorities, and especially black women.

There's always been room for exploring sexuality through the lens of black women, which is why you never heard people really complaining about Insecure (the HBO series) yet it dabbles into sexuality way more than this film did. To say that people just wanna box Teyana's character into a puritanical box is dismissive at best and disingenuous at worst. Also, there's no need to label that character a "sexually peverted freak"; that's not necessary.

Vicko77

9mo

"historically speaking, the white male has been the default for a hot minute in terms of homogeneity in media and grace extended to them"

Not in Paul Thomas Anderson films at all (the guy who wrote Perfidia) idk why you speaking on general terms as if he was responsible for the "homogeneity" and grace given to male characters

And If "sexually perveted freak" has a negative connotation for you, then that's on you champ

Oscar Winner

9mo

Teyanas character was a w****. Dope character, but still a w**** lmao

Vicko77

9mo

What "fetishes"?

And why you skipping that the main white men in this movie are 10000x times more incompetent?

Nero 92

9mo

he's oversexualizing Black women and interracial relationships for almost the entire 30 minutes or so. It was very off-putting.

I don't care that the white men are completely incompetent since they aren't inspired by real revolutionaries. Perfidia is directly inspired by Assata Shakur and it doesn't help that she literally died the day the movie was released. Obviously, anybody who knows anything about Assata is going to feel a way.

I think the problem with the movie is that the Black revolutionaries were never meant to be Black revolutionaries in the first place. They were white in the book and they should've stayed white.

a movie can be great and problematic at the same time lol that's Tarantino's entire filmography.

Nero 92

9mo

he's oversexualizing Black women and interracial relationships for almost the entire 30 minutes or so. It was very off-putting.

I don't care that the white men are completely incompetent since they aren't inspired by real revolutionaries. Perfidia is directly inspired by Assata Shakur and it doesn't help that she literally died the day the movie was released. Obviously, anybody who knows anything about Assata is going to feel a way.

I think the problem with the movie is that the Black revolutionaries were never meant to be Black revolutionaries in the first place. They were white in the book and they should've stayed white.

a movie can be great and problematic at the same time lol that's Tarantino's entire filmography.

Nero 92

9mo

he's oversexualizing Black women and interracial relationships for almost the entire 30 minutes or so. It was very off-putting.

I don't care that the white men are completely incompetent since they aren't inspired by real revolutionaries. Perfidia is directly inspired by Assata Shakur and it doesn't help that she literally died the day the movie was released. Obviously, anybody who knows anything about Assata is going to feel a way.

I think the problem with the movie is that the Black revolutionaries were never meant to be Black revolutionaries in the first place. They were white in the book and they should've stayed white.

a movie can be great and problematic at the same time lol that's Tarantino's entire filmography.

internet buddy

9mo

They are anarchists with no real goal
not really the black panthers