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  • Sep 12, 2023
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    Yuzzy

    For sure

    I'd say that's most kids at least here in the US

    Yep, and there's a reason for that lol

  • Sep 12, 2023
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    Yuzzy

    I primarily blame techs addictiveness

    The addictiveness of certain tech and social media is completely deliberate to help proliferate mental illness, promote consumerism, and diminish attention spans

  • Sep 12, 2023
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    It's funny, my mother is Christian, and my father is Jewish, but they've both practiced a Hindu school of thought for the last 35 years. My aunt is also a famous Buddhist nun, but that's another story. So, my dad is a doctor but he also teaches Adveita every week at a philosophy school. It wasn't until about 2 years ago, like @edumist, that I really started to somewhat delve into it. At the moment I'm most focused on meditation, and separating this sense of the subject & ego from everything around us (swimming headless)

    When I was 5 I misinterpreted my parents as being religiously Hindu, rather than just philosophically Hindu, so I would go around Kindergarten telling the other children that the soul is reincarnated after we die into other species. (I think this is the difference between reincarnation and transmigration - Human body vs a Rabbit, let's say)

    So... My parents never actually believed this and to be frank, I don't really believe in it either. And I don't believe Karma in the supernatural sense. I think in Buddhist thought, and I could be wrong, I'm really not an expert, is that the cycle of life continues in human souls again and again, this is called Samsara, and one is eventually freed from this cycle after its final stage. Was Siddhartha speaking of Karma in supernatural terms? Yes, but this was thousand of years ago. How can we apply it to our lives today?

    I suppose you could say Karma exists in the way that guilt manifests over time. If someone does something very bad in their past (sleepwalk runs naked through a hallway for 2 hours jumping up and down in the elevator and falling asleep in front of the apartment manager's room, aka me at 18) Karma could be the way that guilt manifests years later. If someone commits murder, perhaps the Karma of that action is not a supernatural consequence but rather the guilt or shame that will eat away at your conscience, 10, 20, 30 years later. If someone does a good deed, Karma can manifest as a positive consequence, maybe a person in turn helps you years down the line, or you live knowing that you did something courageous or brave for another person in the past, which could bring you a sense of peace. So all actions have consequences, and if you define Karma in that way I suppose I could believe it.

    There are some really good films about this topic if you want any recs.

  • Sep 12, 2023
    Skinn Foley

    I've listened to Beefheart, Mothers of Invention, Pere Ubu, and The Residents. Heard of Heldon

    I'll peep them though , any recommended works?

    Stand By is highest regarded I'd put Interface up there too

  • Sep 12, 2023
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    Skinn Foley

    Yep, and there's a reason for that lol

    what's the reason

  • Sep 12, 2023
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    Skinn Foley

    The addictiveness of certain tech and social media is completely deliberate to help proliferate mental illness, promote consumerism, and diminish attention spans

    I need to break free from the cycle of social media and find stillness in my life.

  • Sep 12, 2023

    like posting here now. i should be meditating. brb

  • Sep 12, 2023
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    Skinn Foley

    The addictiveness of certain tech and social media is completely deliberate to help proliferate mental illness, promote consumerism, and diminish attention spans

    I think they just want money

    But there is a lot of government/intelligence crossover with big tech as well

  • Sep 12, 2023
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    It's funny, my mother is Christian, and my father is Jewish, but they've both practiced a Hindu school of thought for the last 35 years. My aunt is also a famous Buddhist nun, but that's another story. So, my dad is a doctor but he also teaches Adveita every week at a philosophy school. It wasn't until about 2 years ago, like @edumist, that I really started to somewhat delve into it. At the moment I'm most focused on meditation, and separating this sense of the subject & ego from everything around us (swimming headless)

    When I was 5 I misinterpreted my parents as being religiously Hindu, rather than just philosophically Hindu, so I would go around Kindergarten telling the other children that the soul is reincarnated after we die into other species. (I think this is the difference between reincarnation and transmigration - Human body vs a Rabbit, let's say)

    So... My parents never actually believed this and to be frank, I don't really believe in it either. And I don't believe Karma in the supernatural sense. I think in Buddhist thought, and I could be wrong, I'm really not an expert, is that the cycle of life continues in human souls again and again, this is called Samsara, and one is eventually freed from this cycle after its final stage. Was Siddhartha speaking of Karma in supernatural terms? Yes, but this was thousand of years ago. How can we apply it to our lives today?

    I suppose you could say Karma exists in the way that guilt manifests over time. If someone does something very bad in their past (sleepwalk runs naked through a hallway for 2 hours jumping up and down in the elevator and falling asleep in front of the apartment manager's room, aka me at 18) Karma could be the way that guilt manifests years later. If someone commits murder, perhaps the Karma of that action is not a supernatural consequence but rather the guilt or shame that will eat away at your conscience, 10, 20, 30 years later. If someone does a good deed, Karma can manifest as a positive consequence, maybe a person in turn helps you years down the line, or you live knowing that you did something courageous or brave for another person in the past, which could bring you a sense of peace. So all actions have consequences, and if you define Karma in that way I suppose I could believe it.

    There are some really good films about this topic if you want any recs.

    Film recs please

  • Sep 12, 2023
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    Film recs please

    Well the two filmmakers I was thinking of are Kim Ki Duk and Apichatpong Weerasethakul. You've probably heard of both if you're a film head. 3 Iron (my fav) and Spring, Summer, Winter, Fall and Spring, by Kim Ki Duk, and Uncle Boonmee who can recall his past lives, tropical malady, syndromes and a century by Apich. Here is a more comprehensive list

    mubi.com/en/lists/a-little-buddhist-selection

  • Sep 12, 2023
    Very Based

    Well the two filmmakers I was thinking of are Kim Ki Duk and Apichatpong Weerasethakul. You've probably heard of both if you're a film head. 3 Iron (my fav) and Spring, Summer, Winter, Fall and Spring, by Kim Ki Duk, and Uncle Boonmee who can recall his past lives, tropical malady, syndromes and a century by Apich. Here is a more comprehensive list

    https://mubi.com/en/lists/a-little-buddhist-selection

    Ty

    Groundhog Day in there is interesting

  • Sep 12, 2023
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    Very Based

    I need to break free from the cycle of social media and find stillness in my life.

    I took all the apps off my phone and just use here and rym

    It's poison

  • Sep 12, 2023
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    I think they just want money

    But there is a lot of government/intelligence crossover with big tech as well

    They don't just want money, they want to ensure the protection of their wealth, which in turn demands the protection of the status quo

    A psychologically, intellectually, and spiritually pulverized working class cannot unite against their common enemy. It's a tactic they've used in the US since the Civil War

  • Sep 12, 2023
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    Yuzzy

    what's the reason

    Class struggle

  • i need to tap in, your book reccs always look great

  • Sep 12, 2023
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    Skinn Foley

    I took all the apps off my phone and just use here and rym

    It's poison

    and the most insidious (sinister is a better word) part is that this "experiment" is being done on 11,12,13 year olds. I grew up with severe ADD but not in the age of social media and technology. These poor kids don't stand a chance, with the endless scrolling cycles and the pressure of social media. I was talking to my best friends 12 year old sister a few years ago and she was telling me about all the absurd rules for posting on snapchat or Instagram. If you don't get 150 views/likes you have to delete the post immediately or its social suicide, etc.

    NYU Study on adolescent high school students, published september 4, 2021

    doi.org/10.1007/s11121-021-01295-8

    About one-fourth of the 7,500 respondents said they'd only thought about suicide; 38% said they'd planned suicide but did not attempt it, and 35% said they'd thought about, planned and attempted suicide

  • Sep 12, 2023
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    Skinn Foley

    Class struggle

  • Sep 12, 2023
    Very Based

    and the most insidious (sinister is a better word) part is that this "experiment" is being done on 11,12,13 year olds. I grew up with severe ADD but not in the age of social media and technology. These poor kids don't stand a chance, with the endless scrolling cycles and the pressure of social media. I was talking to my best friends 12 year old sister a few years ago and she was telling me about all the absurd rules for posting on snapchat or Instagram. If you don't get 150 views/likes you have to delete the post immediately or its social suicide, etc.

    NYU Study on adolescent high school students, published september 4, 2021

    https://doi.org/10.1007/s11121-021-01295-8

    About one-fourth of the 7,500 respondents said they'd only thought about suicide; 38% said they'd planned suicide but did not attempt it, and 35% said they'd thought about, planned and attempted suicide

    It's truly terrifying. It's going to be heartbreaking seeing the adult depression and mental illness rates spike when these kids become of age. The percentage of kids reading books is continuously plummeting as well, but unsurprisingly not so amongst uber-wealthy families. Same with the decline in humanities degrees amongst working class folks, such degrees are actually the most common degrees for children of extremely wealthy families to obtain

  • Sep 12, 2023
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    Yuzzy

    Are you denying that class struggle exists? Because even liberals acknowledge this at this point lmao

  • Sep 12, 2023
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    Skinn Foley

    They don't just want money, they want to ensure the protection of their wealth, which in turn demands the protection of the status quo

    A psychologically, intellectually, and spiritually pulverized working class cannot unite against their common enemy. It's a tactic they've used in the US since the Civil War

    Some information around this if you or anyone is interested

    Books:

    • "The New Digital Age: Reshaping the Future of People, Nations and Business" by Eric Schmidt and Jared Cohen
    • "Live Work Work Work Die: A Journey into the Savage Heart of Silicon Valley" by Corey Pein
    • "The Shallows: What the Internet Is Doing to Our Brains" by Nicholas Carr
    • "Weapons of Math Destruction: How Big Data Increases Inequality and Threatens Democracy" by Cathy O'Neil

    Articles:

    • "The Secrets of Silicon Valley: What Big Tech Doesn't Want You to Know" by Yasha Levine, The Baffler
    • "How Big Tech Conspires to Keep the Public in the Dark" by Naomi Klein, The Intercept
    • "Big Techā€™s Stealth Push to Influence Policy" by Tony Romm, The Washington Post
    • "The Uneasy Alliance Between Silicon Valley and the Pentagon" by Garrett M. Graff, WIRED
    • "Big Tech Is Spying on Your Wallet" by Lauren Goode, WIRED: Discusses how Big Tech tracks consumer spending.
    • "The Big Tech Extortion Racket" by Matt Stoller, The American Conservative: Looks at anti-competitive practices.
    • "How Silicon Valley Became a Den of Spies" by Zach Dorfman, POLITICO: Discusses espionage in the tech industry.
    • "Big Tech's Hidden Influence on Politics" by Mark Scott, Politico Europe: Examines how Big Tech subtly shapes political discourse.
    • "Inside the Secretive Silicon Valley Firm Palantir" by Peter Waldman, Bloomberg: Explores the data-mining company's relationship with government agencies.
    • "The Panopticon Is Already Here" by Ross Andersen, The Atlantic: Explores the potential for mass surveillance through tech.
    • "Big Tech and the Digital Economy: The Moligopoly Scenario" by Nicolas Petit, Oxford Business Law Blog: A***yzes Big Tech's domination in multiple sectors.
  • Sep 12, 2023
    Very Based

    and the most insidious (sinister is a better word) part is that this "experiment" is being done on 11,12,13 year olds. I grew up with severe ADD but not in the age of social media and technology. These poor kids don't stand a chance, with the endless scrolling cycles and the pressure of social media. I was talking to my best friends 12 year old sister a few years ago and she was telling me about all the absurd rules for posting on snapchat or Instagram. If you don't get 150 views/likes you have to delete the post immediately or its social suicide, etc.

    NYU Study on adolescent high school students, published september 4, 2021

    https://doi.org/10.1007/s11121-021-01295-8

    About one-fourth of the 7,500 respondents said they'd only thought about suicide; 38% said they'd planned suicide but did not attempt it, and 35% said they'd thought about, planned and attempted suicide

    Unhealthy society

  • Sep 12, 2023
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    Skinn Foley

    Are you denying that class struggle exists? Because even liberals acknowledge this at this point lmao

    Under most definitions yes

    But also dont think its the reason

  • X7JQ9L2MF4A8Z

    i been on and off that piece of s*** book bro

    kant was a terrible writer

    turbo plebian i should delete ur acct for this

  • Sep 12, 2023
    Yuzzy

    Some information around this if you or anyone is interested

    Books:
    • "The New Digital Age: Reshaping the Future of People, Nations and Business" by Eric Schmidt and Jared Cohen
    • "Live Work Work Work Die: A Journey into the Savage Heart of Silicon Valley" by Corey Pein
    • "The Shallows: What the Internet Is Doing to Our Brains" by Nicholas Carr
    • "Weapons of Math Destruction: How Big Data Increases Inequality and Threatens Democracy" by Cathy O'Neil
    Articles:
    • "The Secrets of Silicon Valley: What Big Tech Doesn't Want You to Know" by Yasha Levine, The Baffler
    • "How Big Tech Conspires to Keep the Public in the Dark" by Naomi Klein, The Intercept
    • "Big Techā€™s Stealth Push to Influence Policy" by Tony Romm, The Washington Post
    • "The Uneasy Alliance Between Silicon Valley and the Pentagon" by Garrett M. Graff, WIRED
    • "Big Tech Is Spying on Your Wallet" by Lauren Goode, WIRED: Discusses how Big Tech tracks consumer spending.
    • "The Big Tech Extortion Racket" by Matt Stoller, The American Conservative: Looks at anti-competitive practices.
    • "How Silicon Valley Became a Den of Spies" by Zach Dorfman, POLITICO: Discusses espionage in the tech industry.
    • "Big Tech's Hidden Influence on Politics" by Mark Scott, Politico Europe: Examines how Big Tech subtly shapes political discourse.
    • "Inside the Secretive Silicon Valley Firm Palantir" by Peter Waldman, Bloomberg: Explores the data-mining company's relationship with government agencies.
    • "The Panopticon Is Already Here" by Ross Andersen, The Atlantic: Explores the potential for mass surveillance through tech.
    • "Big Tech and the Digital Economy: The Moligopoly Scenario" by Nicolas Petit, Oxford Business Law Blog: A***yzes Big Tech's domination in multiple sectors.

    Klein is cool but the issue here again is scapegoating a symptom of a larger phenomenon.

    "Tech" does not drive itself. It is steered in the direction that the ruling class in a society wants it to go in. "Big Tech" is a problem but "big business" is the larger problem, because "big tech" couldn't be Big Tech without the commodity form and the existence of private enterprise

  • Sep 12, 2023
    SPICE IS COMING

    i dont like the way college teaches philosophy. its just regurgitate other peoples ideas. it should be focused on me thinking for myself

    Useless degree imo, like isnā€™t that s*** basically just reading a lot of different philosophy books and thinking critically about them and then making some exams on it? Like canā€™t you do that s*** easily on your own? I know thatā€™s for a lot of degrees but you canā€™t even get a great job or anything w the degree.

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