Sep 11, 2020
DEL_3352a profit motive drives innovation, it drives competition, it drives companies actually making an effort to earn the dollar of consumers
overarching government control = stagnation
this argument has literally been debunked multiple times for the past 50-60 years
Sep 11, 2020·2 repliesAmericana 2the folllowing industries should be completely nationalized:
- Natural Resources
- Energy
- Water
- Infrastructure
- Telecoms and Internet
- Education
The following should have national/public options
- Transportation
- Food and D***
- Housing
yeah, agreed. i'd add healthcare and the financial system tbh
- Sep 11, 2020coltrup
yeah, agreed. i'd add healthcare and the financial system tbh
healthcare is food and d***
finance in terms of loans welfare and that should definitely be totally nationalized. Banks are predatory. - Sep 11, 2020·1 replycoltrup
yeah, agreed. i'd add healthcare and the financial system tbh
how can you possibly trust the government to have this much power
- Sep 11, 2020
I’m sure the National Highway system was a product of competition
- Sep 11, 2020DEL_3352
well market exchange and price signals is capitalism, not socialism
exchange of commodities isnt inherently tied to capitalism. capitalism is about who owns the means of production.
- Sep 11, 2020·2 repliesDEL_3352
how can you possibly trust the government to have this much power
As a libertarian you’re putting your trust of that power into corporations who’s bottom line is a profit
They’ll gube you the absolute bare minimum - Sep 11, 2020·2 replies
i feel like we have these debates literally every other month and they always play out the same way
- Sep 11, 2020Americana 2
As a libertarian you’re putting your trust of that power into corporations who’s bottom line is a profit
They’ll gube you the absolute bare minimumI'm not a libertarian, im a centre right capitalist
- Sep 11, 2020·1 replyAmericana 2
As a libertarian you’re putting your trust of that power into corporations who’s bottom line is a profit
They’ll gube you the absolute bare minimumat least in that instance the power is split more ways, instead of being held by 1 monolith
- Sep 11, 2020coltrup
i feel like we have these debates literally every other month and they always play out the same way
you're right man
dunno why we bother tbh
Sep 11, 2020·2 replies
Scratchin MambaIt's honestly not even worth engaging with a guy like luxurywhip
dude doesnt believe in systemic racism lmao f*** what he thinks
- Sep 11, 2020·editedDEL_3352
at least in that instance the power is split more ways, instead of being held by 1 monolith
so you’re getting f***ed in all directions by a bunch of different dudes at once who all want your money and don’t really care about what proportion of your worth the other guy is taking
- Sep 11, 2020coltrup
i feel like we have these debates literally every other month and they always play out the same way
deep down we all just want a better world
- Sep 11, 2020
“at least in that instance the power is split more ways, instead of being held by 1 monolith”
this is literally market feudalism
- Sep 11, 2020·1 reply
we have literally seen how this economic model plays out for like 5 centuries
- Sep 11, 2020·2 repliesdecked
dude doesnt believe in systemic racism lmao f*** what he thinks
do you even know where those ideas originate from?
do you know anything about the ideas of critical theory, foucault, derrida?
my real issue is people who just eat that s*** up
- Sep 11, 2020·1 replyAmericana 2
we have literally seen how this economic model plays out for like 5 centuries
yeah, and we live in the most successful and prosperous time the world has ever seen, pretty amazing
- Sep 11, 2020·1 replyDEL_3352
do you even know where those ideas originate from?
do you know anything about the ideas of critical theory, foucault, derrida?
my real issue is people who just eat that s*** up
how do you read foucault and not believe in systemic racism
- Sep 11, 2020·2 repliescoltrup
how do you read foucault and not believe in systemic racism
because i think his view on the world is deeply flawed, thats why
- Sep 12, 2020·1 replyDEL_3352
because i think his view on the world is deeply flawed, thats why
im not doing this rn
also the world has only "peaked" because the previous models were even s***ier. and half of the time these transitions required sacrificing the quality of life of whoever was involved (agricultural revolution, first industrial revolution that birthed capitalism, etc.)
- Sep 12, 2020coltrup
im not doing this rn
also the world has only "peaked" because the previous models were even s***ier. and half of the time these transitions required sacrificing the quality of life of whoever was involved (agricultural revolution, first industrial revolution that birthed capitalism, etc.)
would be curious what you think of this:
- Sep 12, 2020·2 repliesDEL_3352
yeah, and we live in the most successful and prosperous time the world has ever seen, pretty amazing
for you, as an american yes. What about laborers in free market states in the south and the east? Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh, India, Malaysia, Africa, South America? You and I are at the top of the economic pyramid of capitalism, and all of the wealth that we accrue and all the products that we consume come at the expense of another person who is making that product for literal cents on the dollar, while their own home is trashed with pollution left over by companies like Nestle and Nike and Folgers. The thing about globalist capitalism is that you cannot see the exploitation that you take part in and you can easily turn away.
Sep 12, 2020·1 replyAmericana 2for you, as an american yes. What about laborers in free market states in the south and the east? Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh, India, Malaysia, Africa, South America? You and I are at the top of the economic pyramid of capitalism, and all of the wealth that we accrue and all the products that we consume come at the expense of another person who is making that product for literal cents on the dollar, while their own home is trashed with pollution left over by companies like Nestle and Nike and Folgers. The thing about globalist capitalism is that you cannot see the exploitation that you take part in and you can easily turn away.
He doesn't care about them
- Sep 12, 2020·2 repliesAmericana 2
for you, as an american yes. What about laborers in free market states in the south and the east? Indonesia, Pakistan, Bangladesh, India, Malaysia, Africa, South America? You and I are at the top of the economic pyramid of capitalism, and all of the wealth that we accrue and all the products that we consume come at the expense of another person who is making that product for literal cents on the dollar, while their own home is trashed with pollution left over by companies like Nestle and Nike and Folgers. The thing about globalist capitalism is that you cannot see the exploitation that you take part in and you can easily turn away.
I'm Australian
I'm against globalisation for the most part, I don't think big companies should be exploiting cheap labour overseas in any form
