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  • Sep 12, 2020

    If I owned a cookie shop why should i have to serve blue people if i dont want to? would u be ojay with me raising the price?

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    CLB KarlPilkington

    You don’t choose religion lol. You’re born into it.

    And yeah that’s why this would never work lol, but let’s say it’s explicitly written that sexual orientation and gender are not choices - that’s where I would want to see this work.

    ... you 100% can choose religion

  • Sep 12, 2020
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    Snow Tha GOAT

    ... you 100% can choose religion

    Of course you CAN choose religion. You CAN choose anything.

    But f*** off if you think it’s alright to discriminate based on religion when people are born and often forced into adopting a religion and don’t know any better.

  • Scratchin Mamba ⚒️
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    Snow Tha GOAT

    as libertarian as possible but with protection for children

    Imagine

  • Sep 12, 2020
    Scratchin Mamba

    Imagine

    !https://youtu.be/U2Nad1b_3yY

    i said with protection for children...

  • Sep 12, 2020
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    CLB KarlPilkington

    Of course you CAN choose religion. You CAN choose anything.

    But f*** off if you think it’s alright to discriminate based on religion when people are born and often forced into adopting a religion and don’t know any better.

    If I dont want to serve someone i should have every right not to

  • Sep 12, 2020
    DEL_3352

    because i think his view on the world is deeply flawed, thats why

    ah its u again, the australian saying, systemic racism doesn’t exist

  • Sep 12, 2020
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    Snow Tha GOAT

    If I dont want to serve someone i should have every right not to

    You don’t think that’s problematic lmao

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    CLB KarlPilkington

    You don’t think that’s problematic lmao

    What’s so problematic about it, everyone wins from private discrimination

  • Sep 12, 2020
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    RoomOnFire

    What’s so problematic about it, everyone wins from private discrimination

    It’s a slippery slope.

    If I create a medicine that can save lives, and I don’t give it to people who look a certain way or a certain gender, that is wrong.

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    CLB KarlPilkington

    It’s a slippery slope.

    If I create a medicine that can save lives, and I don’t give it to people who look a certain way or a certain gender, that is wrong.

    If you ain’t giving it to everyone then you’re going to be out of buisiness soon because of competitors that Would sell it without discrimination

  • Sep 12, 2020
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    RoomOnFire

    If you ain’t giving it to everyone then you’re going to be out of buisiness soon because of competitors that Would sell it without discrimination

    Not if he patents it

  • Sep 12, 2020
    RoomOnFire

    What’s so problematic about it, everyone wins from private discrimination

    You guys are really just pieces of s*** lol theres nothing more to your ideology than that simple fact

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    Synopsis

    Not if he patents it

    That’s his right to do so
    I personally wouldn’t do it but it’s his creation.
    And alternative will be found if there is demand for it
    However if there is none, then yeah. Prohibiting discrimination in this case might be the right thing

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    RoomOnFire

    That’s his right to do so
    I personally wouldn’t do it but it’s his creation.
    And alternative will be found if there is demand for it
    However if there is none, then yeah. Prohibiting discrimination in this case might be the right thing

    Oh you dont say

  • Synopsis

    Oh you dont say

    Lmao right

  • Sep 12, 2020
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    RoomOnFire

    That’s his right to do so
    I personally wouldn’t do it but it’s his creation.
    And alternative will be found if there is demand for it
    However if there is none, then yeah. Prohibiting discrimination in this case might be the right thing

    It’s not just “about this case”

    You have to create rules that take these types of situations into consideration

    Hence why this whole private discrimination with no bounds patently doesn’t work

  • Sep 12, 2020
    CLB KarlPilkington

    It’s not just “about this case”

    You have to create rules that take these types of situations into consideration

    Hence why this whole private discrimination with no bounds patently doesn’t work

    Yeah I agree
    Some regulation is necessary

  • Scratchin Mamba ⚒️
    Sep 12, 2020
    Synopsis

    Oh you dont say

  • Sep 12, 2020

    man said prohibiting discrimination might be the right thing

  • Sep 12, 2020
    RoomOnFire

    Those companies that are racist won’t last
    Racism is not profitable

    What’s funny is that most people that I talk to who say “racism is not profitable” will then proceed to justify discrimination in employment and pay between races by saying s*** like “black people have lower iq scores on average”

    this is just racism with extra steps

  • Sep 12, 2020
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    most interpretations of socialism are just forms of organizing capitalism

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    krishna bound

    most interpretations of socialism are just forms of organizing capitalism

    How

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    How

    socialism in a vacuum is not an inherently cultural system by itself, and most facets people attribute to modern capitalism are not economic by nature but rather cultural. while you can argue that these cultural facets exist because of the economics of capitalism, and i wouldn't disagree, that still makes them derivative, not inherent of. capitalism in a broader context is purely an economic system - most of its cultural assets are not "capitalist" but rather "liberal" while "liberal" includes "capitalist" as its preferred economic model.
    while socialism often comes with notions aimed at replacing these now embedded cultural facets - or modifying them - these are not inherent to the economic nature of socialism itself. modern socialism is a natural progression of a capitalist world; it's not an "alternative" in the sense that it's a holistic historical replacement; it still follows (and acknowledges) its lineage from capitalism. Modern Socialism can only exist as an extension of a world which at one point was capitalist; same with the further lineage of communism. The modern understanding of Communism would not exist without the precursor of capitalism - there's a reason why it's considered post-capitalist. Take this in comparison to a anarchic barter system; such could exist in any vacuum without the precursor of industry. Alternatively, feudal monarchy could also exist at any given time - pre-capitalist or post-capitalist.
    "socialized" is not the same thing as "socialist". hence why pre-marx "socialist" & "communist" models are clearly distinctive from post-marx (and thus post-ML) beliefs. also why all forms of commune are not simply communistic. the simple belief in not having private property does not inherently make something communist (although it does make it comparable of course), because socialism (and further communism) are clear ways of organizing a former capitalist system in a highly specific manner.
    while you can argue i'm being pedantic and the distinction here is purely historical or purely textual, because yes, of course, socialist economies are clearly not the same as like, civil libertarian (and that's not the comparison i'm making), it's still an important underlying philosophical distinction in terms of cultural implications (and globalized relations).

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    krishna bound

    socialism in a vacuum is not an inherently cultural system by itself, and most facets people attribute to modern capitalism are not economic by nature but rather cultural. while you can argue that these cultural facets exist because of the economics of capitalism, and i wouldn't disagree, that still makes them derivative, not inherent of. capitalism in a broader context is purely an economic system - most of its cultural assets are not "capitalist" but rather "liberal" while "liberal" includes "capitalist" as its preferred economic model.
    while socialism often comes with notions aimed at replacing these now embedded cultural facets - or modifying them - these are not inherent to the economic nature of socialism itself. modern socialism is a natural progression of a capitalist world; it's not an "alternative" in the sense that it's a holistic historical replacement; it still follows (and acknowledges) its lineage from capitalism. Modern Socialism can only exist as an extension of a world which at one point was capitalist; same with the further lineage of communism. The modern understanding of Communism would not exist without the precursor of capitalism - there's a reason why it's considered post-capitalist. Take this in comparison to a anarchic barter system; such could exist in any vacuum without the precursor of industry. Alternatively, feudal monarchy could also exist at any given time - pre-capitalist or post-capitalist.
    "socialized" is not the same thing as "socialist". hence why pre-marx "socialist" & "communist" models are clearly distinctive from post-marx (and thus post-ML) beliefs. also why all forms of commune are not simply communistic. the simple belief in not having private property does not inherently make something communist (although it does make it comparable of course), because socialism (and further communism) are clear ways of organizing a former capitalist system in a highly specific manner.
    while you can argue i'm being pedantic and the distinction here is purely historical or purely textual, because yes, of course, socialist economies are clearly not the same as like, civil libertarian (and that's not the comparison i'm making), it's still an important underlying philosophical distinction in terms of cultural implications (and globalized relations).

    Oh. I agree with p much most of this. Dont want to misrepresent ur point but this line of thinking is similar to Marxs progression of history yes?

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