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5y

Lmao when are we going to get to a place where we can acknowledge black men dissing other black men often to the point of death threats or threats against their families isn't "voicing issues of impoverished communities"

i totally understand the socioeconomic story of how we got here and the whole bullshit "black on black" crime stances, etc.

the white man don't have control over the music we choose to make and what we choose to glorify, he set a lot of socioeconomic factors in motion but he didn't invent smoking packs of niggas or upholding the hip hop caricature of having to be Super Nigga to the point where the only way you can be humbled is some s*** like what happened to Von or this

The Powers That Be have their faults but a lot of this s*** the culture has brought on itself within the past 30 years. Especially when there was protest music being made about these topic 30 years ago lol

we're too far gone because of s*** WE choose to push to the forefront of the culture

Oblivion X

5y

But the music is not what is causing this type of s*** to happen. Far from it. Sure it can play a role. But the role is so minuscule to the real issue. Studies shows that homicide rate amongst blacks was far higher in the 60s to 90s than it is today. And they didnt have street rap back then. Rap wasnt even a thing for most of then.

So what does that say when street rap is out of the equation and this type of s*** was happening more. That the socioeconomic factors play a much LARGER role than street music does.

The black culture didnt invite this s***, the factors that put niggas where they're at did.

Like fr what do you think the black community taking accountability for f*** s*** entails ?

Oblivion X

5y

But the music is not what is causing this type of s*** to happen. Far from it. Sure it can play a role. But the role is so minuscule to the real issue. Studies shows that homicide rate amongst blacks was far higher in the 60s to 90s than it is today. And they didnt have street rap back then. Rap wasnt even a thing for most of then.

So what does that say when street rap is out of the equation and this type of s*** was happening more. That the socioeconomic factors play a much LARGER role than street music does.

The black culture didnt invite this s***, the factors that put niggas where they're at did.

Like fr what do you think the black community taking accountability for f*** s*** entails ?

SHAQUILLE

5y

Niggas would have to come together and say that being a super tough gangster nigga isn’t cool.

The problem is that it’ll never happen. America loves the gangster in general. Whether it’s cowboy outlaws, mobsters, or gang members, it’s always gonna be profitable

The unfortunate s*** is when you get kids who really don’t need to be on that type of time getting themselves hurt or locked up tryna impress other niggas and be like their favorite rappers

Bmezy

5y

Another issue is that a lot of the destructive lyrical content isn’t from the basis of a cautionary tale to warn onlookers and those mostly impacted by the culture to stay away or ‘there are consequences’ like late 80s-early 90s artists ..it’s outright glorification and idolatry in this generation.. especially drill culture, which is spreading all over the world.. mental health issues, emotional instability ravage our youth. especially the males in the communities. it’s disingenuous to roll the ‘it’s just entertainment’ dice, knowing that the dark impulses brought out with the help of this music will influence the ‘weak’ (in mind in spirit).

Homie made songs about shooting opps grandparents if he saw them and they turned around and killed his

We acknowledge how these rappers/artists that perpetuate this demonic s*** in their art ALSO influence kids with fashion brands (Gucci, supreme, fendi/LV,, hair styles, slang/vernacular ect, but shove their heads in the sand to avoid accountability because THEY love the music and it doesn’t affect THEM personally.. f*** ur ‘rip’ nigga.. you don’t care.

Music and entertainment raises our black children.

user

5y

Simply to stop pushing this type of music/this mentality of niggas being p**** or a stepper lol and then acting surprised when s*** like this happens

Lol the culture LOVES a stepper/killer until the stepper/killer gets stepped on or killed. Either the culture gotta say "We Love Demon S*** and Those Who Get Caught Get Caught. No Rules" or we put an end to all glorification of this s***. Yeah niggas can still make struggle music but it's a difference between struggle music and niggas bragging about how many niggas they shot at or killed or how many black mommas they made cry.

That's interesting about black homicides being higher back then but it's a lot of factors: that was the height of all these socioeconomic factors (drugs/rewiring the structure and purpose of gangs) we're discussing being introduced and it was no cameras until maybe the late 80's/early 90's. I'm sure that all plays a role in homicides going down.

Oblivion X

5y

Okay let's say we managed to somehow get rid of this mentality and culture surrounding street rap nowadays. F*** let's say we get rid of street rap in total. Now what ?

Niggas are still in the hoods, niggas still need to get money for their family. Niggas still gonna be beefing with other niggas. Guns are still gonna in the neighborhoods. There's still gonna be violence so what did getting rid of street music really do ?

And to @02Shaq last point, that is a problem of kids being influenced by this music. Studies have been shown that music can influence aggressive thoughts in people. And seen with the whole lean and d*** wave in rap, music has influence on actions. But theres also studies of violent media not causing people to commit full violent crimes and more so on their conditions being at fault

user

5y

A lot of that beef goes away if the music isn’t being used as a stage for street politics to play out

Of course I get what you’re saying about economic need and there always gonna be get back but it’s ridiculous to act like we can’t chip away at some of that with what we choose to glorify and promote

The question isn’t then what it’s how many thousands or millions of niggas/black lives were saved by niggas choosing to change how they view and glorify f*** s***. Of course crime and violence always gon be there to a degree with any demographic

POOM POOM DOOM

5y

Some dudes chased him by car, made him crash then shot at him for good measure: https://www.instagram.com/p/CLS4--dpVJC/