Russo-Ukrainian War

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  • Mar 7, 2022
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    Y0rn

    I think if Russia (and China) was a better working democracy everyone would agree with multipolarity

    Saudi-Arabia is a part of the Western US-EU axis too
    So is Thailand
    So are a bunch of African states that are effectively ran as dictatorships

    The question was never whether they were "working democracies" or not

  • Mar 7, 2022
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    Y0rn

    I think if Russia (and China) was a better working democracy everyone would agree with multipolarity

    Democracies don't tend to war with each other. It's extremely rare

  • Mar 7, 2022
    TragedyBerlusconi

    Then why have we had less war overall since 1990 than at any point before in history?

  • e t

    Is this thinly veiled homophobia?

    No I believe he's insinuating the lack of women and children may lead to either demographic decline, or reactionary tendencies as men are by and large more Conservative and prone to anti social tendencies

  • Mar 7, 2022
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    Democracies don't tend to war with each other. It's extremely rare

    You guys say this and then fall back to "XYZ WAS NOT A REAL DEMOCRACY" true scotsman fallacies whenever these truisms are pointed out as wrong

  • Mar 7, 2022
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    Why are people in here still crying about azow lmao

  • Mar 7, 2022
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    ARCADE GOON

    You guys say this and then fall back to "XYZ WAS NOT A REAL DEMOCRACY" true scotsman fallacies whenever these truisms are pointed out as wrong

    Name me a war between 2 functional, fully suffraged democracies where neither had become authoritarian and lost democratic credentials

  • Mar 7, 2022
    TragedyBerlusconi

    Then why have we had less war overall since 1990 than at any point before in history?

    That seems to be a pattern anyway tbh. If you really look at the stats the amount of conflict/war decreasing over time

  • Mar 7, 2022
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    Name me a war between 2 functional, fully suffraged democracies where neither had become authoritarian and lost democratic credentials

    There we go

    Once again you point out so many prerequisites that your original statement becomes useless

    Your rhetorical trick only works by excluding 90% of the world from the definition of what a functioning "democracy" is

  • Mar 7, 2022
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    ARCADE GOON

    There we go

    Once again you point out so many prerequisites that your original statement becomes useless

    Your rhetorical trick only works by excluding 90% of the world from the definition of what a functioning "democracy" is

    That's cause most of the world is authoritarian and middle income

    But you've still not addressed the point

    Even flawed democracies don't tend to war that much

  • Mar 7, 2022
    kuxan

    Why are people in here still crying about azow lmao

    beg for forgiveness NOW!

  • Mar 7, 2022
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    That's cause most of the world is authoritarian and middle income

    But you've still not addressed the point

    Even flawed democracies don't tend to war that much

    As always with you liberals, you regard politics in an Platonic idea-heaven where countries are either "authoritarian, oriental, despotic" or "libertarian, free, Western".

    You completely disregard why a country with the pressure it has from outside and inside forces might want to have one form of policy that you describe as "authoritarian".

    You disregard why a country surrounded by wealthy, allied neighbors with the same economic system, same religion and same language family has no reason to enact such "authoritarian" policies.

    Whatever "authoritarian" policies they do have are explained away by rhetorical sleight of hand tricks - they are not wars, just interventions to counter (insert foreign threat to freedom and democracy).

    Your a***ysis has zero basis to material reality, it is just stuck in textbook truisms like "democracies don't have wars against each other", "countries with McDonalds don't have wars against each other" and other liberal memes.

    It's easy to say "democracies don't do XYZ" when this is your entire definition of democracy, and you bend and break the definition ex-post to fit countries into this mold and exclude others:

  • Mar 7, 2022
    Upper Moon 1

    We need a Eren Yeager in the world

    If there is one, he’s growing up in a disputed and conflicted region.

    My biggest bets are on Palestine or Kashmir. Eren Yeager confirmed Muslim

    C-C-C-AN YOU FEEL. MY HEEEAAAARTTT.

  • Mar 7, 2022

    WWHPD

    WHAT WOULD HARRY POTTER DO

  • Mar 7, 2022
    ARCADE GOON

    Saudi-Arabia is a part of the Western US-EU axis too
    So is Thailand
    So are a bunch of African states that are effectively ran as dictatorships

    The question was never whether they were "working democracies" or not

    You're talking bout the perspective of the Western elite now?

    For the rest of the people that seems to be a real deal breaker tho. I highly doubt they would oppose another superpower if it was a democracy. As you know yourself, they also don't f*** w the political systems of the countries you just named

  • Mar 7, 2022
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    ARCADE GOON

    As always with you liberals, you regard politics in an Platonic idea-heaven where countries are either "authoritarian, oriental, despotic" or "libertarian, free, Western".

    You completely disregard why a country with the pressure it has from outside and inside forces might want to have one form of policy that you describe as "authoritarian".

    You disregard why a country surrounded by wealthy, allied neighbors with the same economic system, same religion and same language family has no reason to enact such "authoritarian" policies.

    Whatever "authoritarian" policies they do have are explained away by rhetorical sleight of hand tricks - they are not wars, just interventions to counter (insert foreign threat to freedom and democracy).

    Your a***ysis has zero basis to material reality, it is just stuck in textbook truisms like "democracies don't have wars against each other", "countries with McDonalds don't have wars against each other" and other liberal memes.

    It's easy to say "democracies don't do XYZ" when this is your entire definition of democracy, and you bend and break the definition ex-post to fit countries into this mold and exclude others:

    I mean i don't even remotely like their current government but you gotta put india in there even if modi can eat a d***

  • TragedyBerlusconi

    Democracies don't tend to war with each other. It's extremely rare

    lmao

  • Mar 7, 2022
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    TragedyBerlusconi

    I mean i don't even remotely like their current government but you gotta put india in there even if modi can eat a d***

    South Asia is its own beast. And it’s been relatively mature and self-contained, unlike the west & it’s egregious foreign policies.

    I’ll always maintain, albeit their issues with one another, South Asia has the most level-headed & cool-as-ice countries. They always think twice & thrice.

    No nukes have flown there, only Western leaders have ever used nukes in war &/or threatened to use them.

    South Asia just waits for the T20 Cricket cup to flex hard.

  • Mar 7, 2022
    Upper Moon 1

    We need a Eren Yeager in the world

    So someone who actually uses all nukes?

  • Mar 7, 2022
    ALPHABEAR

    South Asia is its own beast. And it’s been relatively mature and self-contained, unlike the west & it’s egregious foreign policies.

    I’ll always maintain, albeit their issues with one another, South Asia has the most level-headed & cool-as-ice countries. They always think twice & thrice.

    No nukes have flown there, only Western leaders have ever used nukes in war &/or threatened to use them.

    South Asia just waits for the T20 Cricket cup to flex hard.

    facts

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    Y0rn

    I think if Russia (and China) was a better working democracy everyone would agree with multipolarity

    Imperial interests don't care about democracy my boy, Saudi Arabia thriving

  • Mar 7, 2022
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    The idea that Western governments foreign policy has ANYTHING to do with democracy is my favorite fairy tale

  • Mar 7, 2022
    Scratchin Mamba

    Imperial interests don't care about democracy my boy, Saudi Arabia thriving

    I mean the common folk ofc. You know Saudi Arabia aint loved over here for the same reason lmao

  • Mar 7, 2022
    Scratchin Mamba

    The idea that Western governments foreign policy has ANYTHING to do with democracy is my favorite fairy tale

    It’s all predatory capitalism, opportunistic destabilization & flat out marginalization that might or might not be based on racism.