Russo-Ukrainian War

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  • Apr 3, 2022
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    Frankito Reynolds

    The Twelver Shias are anticipating the reappearance.

    There are other sects too though
    Some sects of Islam Like the Baha'i they believe the Hidden Imam already reappeared through the Bab and Bahá'u'lláh..
    The Ayatollah calls them infidels and is very against them, they are badly mistreated.

    Baha'i isn't a sect of Islam, it's its own religion

  • Apr 3, 2022
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    Y0rn

    This is great. Not all of Europe can do this tho, but some are not that dependent on Russian gas and def can take that step

    I hope this eventually leads to a faster sustainable energy transition from the EU

    Sustainable energy They’re gonna extract every penny out of oil & gas industry, no matter the amount oil spills and whatnot. Renewable is bad for business.

  • Apr 3, 2022
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    bloom

    Sustainable energy They’re gonna extract every penny out of oil & gas industry, no matter the amount oil spills and whatnot. Renewable is bad for business.

    Yeah that's a fantasy.

    Instead of Russian gas EU will now just depend on American FREEDOM GAS.

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    Apr 3, 2022
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    Scratchin Mamba

    Yeah that's a fantasy.

    Instead of Russian gas EU will now just depend on American FREEDOM GAS.

    wish I lived in a world where things were done because of the good of everyone, not for money and all that s***

  • Apr 3, 2022
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    lil ufo

    wish I lived in a world where things were done because of the good of everyone, not for money and all that s***

    Me too bro.. me too.....

  • Apr 3, 2022
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    The genocide in Bucha is horrifying.

  • Apr 3, 2022
    bloom

    Sustainable energy They’re gonna extract every penny out of oil & gas industry, no matter the amount oil spills and whatnot. Renewable is bad for business.

    You're right, they will. I'm not saying i expect them to. I'm saying it's possible if they want to and i hope they fasten that transition, which in fact is still a goal of the EU

  • Apr 3, 2022
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    krishna bound

    Baha'i isn't a sect of Islam, it's its own religion

    Says who? Look up the origins. It grew out of the shia branch of islam.

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    Apr 3, 2022
    TheRedKeeper

    The genocide in Bucha is horrifying.

  • Apr 3, 2022
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    The romantic view of guerilla war and insurgency should die with Bucha. That's the reality of that sentiment.

  • Apr 3, 2022
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    Mango

    The romantic view of guerilla war and insurgency should die with Bucha. That's the reality of that sentiment.

    don't get what you mean

    Can you expand on it?

  • Apr 3, 2022
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    Frankito Reynolds

    Says who? Look up the origins. It grew out of the shia branch of islam.

    they themselves do not consider themselves islamic, they affirm only parts of the Islamic faith but confirm other parts of other religions too because they believe aspects of every religion, not just abrahamic ones. Baha'i is different than Babism. Babism/Babi was basically an esoteric shi'a offshoot sure, but Babi and Baha'i aren't the same thing. Baha'i grew on a further derivative diverging from Babi with influence from several other religions at the same time. Calling Baha'i Islam is like calling Christianity Judaism, they see Islam as a separate precursor and no longer believe the scriptures of Islam are independently valid. Baha'i also affirm scriptures of Zoroastrianism and Hinduism, it's just not abrahamic. The historical pretext of the background of its first practitioners just happened to be islamic.

  • French

    don't get what you mean

    Can you expand on it?

    He's saying (I think) that people romanticize the idea of civilian insurgents fighting for their homeland and picking up arms to defend their countries guerilla style rather than traditional military tactics (i.e. civilians take shelter or evacuate while actual soldiers fight), but when civilians do that, this is the reality of what happens when these armed guerilla civilians are met with fights against professional military forces

  • Apr 3, 2022
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    krishna bound

    they themselves do not consider themselves islamic, they affirm only parts of the Islamic faith but confirm other parts of other religions too because they believe aspects of every religion, not just abrahamic ones. Baha'i is different than Babism. Babism/Babi was basically an esoteric shi'a offshoot sure, but Babi and Baha'i aren't the same thing. Baha'i grew on a further derivative diverging from Babi with influence from several other religions at the same time. Calling Baha'i Islam is like calling Christianity Judaism, they see Islam as a separate precursor and no longer believe the scriptures of Islam are independently valid. Baha'i also affirm scriptures of Zoroastrianism and Hinduism, it's just not abrahamic. The historical pretext of the background of its first practitioners just happened to be islamic.

    Yeah they are different but still an off shoot. Anyway, the user I replied to asked about other beliefs with the Hidden Imam as a figure and Bahai is one of those. Also Babism is the integral part of Bahaism. The Bab is the representative (gateway, deputy) of the hidden imam...

  • Apr 3, 2022
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    Frankito Reynolds

    Yeah they are different but still an off shoot. Anyway, the user I replied to asked about other beliefs with the Hidden Imam as a figure and Bahai is one of those. Also Babism is the integral part of Bahaism. The Bab is the representative (gateway, deputy) of the hidden imam...

    Yeah but they aren't the same thing, it went Islam -> Babism -> multi-religion split -> Baha'i

    Babism had its own succession divergence post-Bab and Babism became a more esoteric narrowly practiced branch of Islam and Baha'i went on to become influenced in succession by other religions and shedding the intrinsic connection to Islam

  • Apr 3, 2022
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    krishna bound

    Yeah but they aren't the same thing, it went Islam -> Babism -> multi-religion split -> Baha'i

    Babism had its own succession divergence post-Bab and Babism became a more esoteric narrowly practiced branch of Islam and Baha'i went on to become influenced in succession by other religions and shedding the intrinsic connection to Islam

    You believe that they are shedding the intrinsic connection to Islam, they themselves don't. They believe they are the truth. That the prophecy was fulfilled and Bab's manifestation was the symbolic return of the Hidden Imam.

  • Apr 3, 2022
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    Frankito Reynolds

    You believe that they are shedding the intrinsic connection to Islam, they themselves don't. They believe they are the truth. That the prophecy was fulfilled and Bab's manifestation was the symbolic return of the Hidden Imam.

    They definitely do believe that they do not call themselves Islamic for a reason

  • Apr 3, 2022
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    krishna bound

    They definitely do believe that they do not call themselves Islamic for a reason

    The manifestation came with updated script, so yeah the laws vary... Also they are so marginalized and mistreated by the islamic regimme that it makes sense to dissociate from them. But to say that there is no intrinsic connection to Islam is wrong because the Hidden Imam is a direct descendent of Muhammad. The Bab himself was a shia Mullah!

    Granted it's all bullshit stories and this offshoot branch of Islam was created cause a Mullah was probably sick of the bullshit and the patriarchal muslim society and believed he could write a better script (He did set the penalty for causing grief to women as double that of causing grief to men!)

  • In other news the Mfer Putin ain't even cleaning up after himself anymore. That mobile crematorium must be out of order. Putin probably only ever had one made.

  • Apr 3, 2022
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    Frankito Reynolds

    The manifestation came with updated script, so yeah the laws vary... Also they are so marginalized and mistreated by the islamic regimme that it makes sense to dissociate from them. But to say that there is no intrinsic connection to Islam is wrong because the Hidden Imam is a direct descendent of Muhammad. The Bab himself was a shia Mullah!

    Granted it's all bullshit stories and this offshoot branch of Islam was created cause a Mullah was probably sick of the bullshit and the patriarchal muslim society and believed he could write a better script (He did set the penalty for causing grief to women as double that of causing grief to men!)

    I didn't say there wasn't an islamic historical context, but once the shift happened from Bab to Baha'u'llah in leadership and philosophy the religion abandoned the pretense of being a branch of Islam. If you told a Baha'i person they were actually muslim they would definitely disagree. Not just for religious reasons but also for cultural ones.

  • krishna bound

    I didn't say there wasn't an islamic historical context, but once the shift happened from Bab to Baha'u'llah in leadership and philosophy the religion abandoned the pretense of being a branch of Islam. If you told a Baha'i person they were actually muslim they would definitely disagree. Not just for religious reasons but also for cultural ones.

    Ofcourse they would get upset if you call them muslim because they believe they have transcended beyond that and follow the teachings of the Hidden Imam which manifested through Bab.

    Culturally they are Iranian. Only difference is when they read their holy script they actually understand it because it is in Farsi and men and women get to hang out during prayer sessions.

  • Apr 3, 2022
    Scratchin Mamba

    Me too bro.. me too.....

  • Apr 3, 2022
    French

    don't get what you mean

    Can you expand on it?

    Mainstream news outlets glorifying insurgency are glossing over the grim reality of what actually happens if armed forces occupy cities. You will have resistance bands filtering though civilian populations and mass casualties as a result. That is where the atrocities will actually mount. The longer this war goes on, the fewer conventional military targets will be left, the more Buchas will occur.

    If anyone actually cares about the people of Ukraine as more than a totem they should pray for diplomacy to prevail expediently. The visions of grandmas throwing bricks out of windows at tanks are hokem. As Russian offensives stall/reorient and Ukraine realizes the west won't back them decisively you have to hope for a negotiated peace.