But they are associated with a fully sovereign state are they not
If you believe the Ayatollah's regimme is legitimate then I guess so. It's a centralized government yes. But it breeds fascism and ideologies comparable to Nazism.
I think our discussion has gone long enough and the spectators can decide for themselves if they are comparable or not.
If you believe the Ayatollah's regimme is legitimate then I guess so. It's a centralized government yes. But it breeds fascism and ideologies comparable to Nazism.
I think our discussion has gone long enough and the spectators can decide for themselves if they are comparable or not.
I'm not saying whether or not I like the Ayatollah, the fact is that they're recognized by the UN and are considered sovereign in geopolitics regardless.
You’re literally brain dead
No I'm not, I don't like either bandera nor Lenin
The former was obviously worse as the carnage Lenin created was not motivated by an ideology as evil as nazism, but it's my opinion that neither are worth celebration
I'm not saying whether or not I like the Ayatollah, the fact is that they're recognized by the UN and are considered sovereign in geopolitics regardless.
F*** US and F*** UN i don't give a s*** what they recognize as legitimate cause they are illegitimate.
That doesnt even matter anyway because like I said Qods chiefly operates outside of Iran so again that makes it even more comparable because Qods is operating in places struggling with their sovereignty like Yemen and palestine in order to stronghold Ayatollahs ideology... very very comparable with Azove and Nazism.
If you believe the Ayatollah's regimme is legitimate then I guess so. It's a centralized government yes. But it breeds fascism and ideologies comparable to Nazism.
I think our discussion has gone long enough and the spectators can decide for themselves if they are comparable or not.
They’re not comparable and you literally talk past any point anyone ever tries to make in any discussion because you have a weird obsession with the Ayatollah and cant help but find a way to bring him up in the most irrelevant and contrived ways
They’re not comparable and you literally talk past any point anyone ever tries to make in any discussion because you have a weird obsession with the Ayatollah and cant help but find a way to bring him up in the most irrelevant and contrived ways
Where are Hamas rockets made in from?
I disagree on the jewish state part
theres isn't a reason to support a state for jewish people because the jewish faith explicitly bans it in the Talmud as per The Three Oaths. There is no reason to support a jewish ethnic state besides interpretations of religion or essentially ethnonationalism; with jewish rhetoric split on the religious end, and with the actual scripture they claim to obey saying they shouldn't do that, there isn't a great reason to support it. The origin of support for Israel from the west was not charitable, it was literally along the lines of "we don't want these jews here can we PLEASE put them somewhere else". Advocating for actual acceptance of jewish people living in respective countries without thinking they need to be shipped abroad is far more meaningful
I know that Jewish people are really split on the idea. Especially the orthodox are against the whole idea of a Jewish state, for the reasons you named.
But that doesn't mean you can't support the idea of a place for them. You know it was the discrimination in Europe that even gave them the idea, and Herzl had a lot support from Jewish people too. Of course peaceful integration in existing societies is the better option. But if there's one thing we know, is that throughout history they been discriminated on. And that won't stop for sure
@krishna_bound where did your post go I was writing a reply
@krishna_bound where did your post go I was writing a reply
I haven't deleted anything, unless a mod removed it
I know that Jewish people are really split on the idea. Especially the orthodox are against the whole idea of a Jewish state, for the reasons you named.
But that doesn't mean you can't support the idea of a place for them. You know it was the discrimination in Europe that even gave them the idea, and Herzl had a lot support from Jewish people too. Of course peaceful integration in existing societies is the better option. But if there's one thing we know, is that throughout history they been discriminated on. And that won't stop for sure
I get what you're saying but in this case you can't really support "a place for them" without simultaneously saying "other people shouldn't have that place". Western intervention in the region is also largely what caused displacement of jewish people in the middle east to begin with - it's not like jews didn't exist in palestine, or in, you know, like THE ENTIRETY of the middle east. I'm not saying jewish people didn't have modern historical issues in the ME, but it was all made far worse and overall exacerbated to its breaking point by the tendrils of western intervention and influence.In fact teh very reason there will likely not be a resolution to much of how jews are now viewed in much of the ME is thanks to the west. If westerners just allowed that "place for them" to be like, neighborhoods in their own countries of origin, this really wouldn't be so much of an issue to begin with.
98% of Ukrainians and 82% of ethnic Russian Ukrainians believe that no part of Ukraine belongs to Russia
They don't want to be part of a huge rusty fascist s***hole
I haven't deleted anything, unless a mod removed it
I was just saying Iran aint as soveirgn as you think. Just because they have a centralized government with a mullah dictator dont make them soveirgn.
Mullahs are traitors . They damn forfeited near half of Iran to russia in 1828 with the Turkmanchai treaty. They have given the rights to most of their share of the caspian sea to russia in recent years. Is Iran a soveirgn state? it sure dont feel like it living there! You can go ask the seamen in the south who lost their livelihood cause the government allows the CCP to vaccum the ocean how soveirgn they feel!
https://www.europeanleadershipnetwork.org/commentary/ukrainians-want-to-stay-and-fight-but-dont-see-russian-people-as-the-enemy-a-remarkable-poll-from-kyiv/
98% of Ukrainians and 82% of ethnic Russian Ukrainians believe that no part of Ukraine belongs to Russia
They don't want to be part of a huge rusty fascist s***hole
Just a smaller rusty fascist s***hole
Just a smaller rusty fascist s***hole
Russia is more fascist than Ukraine.
Russian government: we shall unify the Russian peoples into one whole and end the thalassocratic dominance, achieving Russias destiny to dominate eurasia
Ukrainian government: yo can we join the eu please
Russia is more fascist than Ukraine.
But Bro Uncle Sam is the biggest fascist and Zelensky is his minion.
https://www.europeanleadershipnetwork.org/commentary/ukrainians-want-to-stay-and-fight-but-dont-see-russian-people-as-the-enemy-a-remarkable-poll-from-kyiv/
98% of Ukrainians and 82% of ethnic Russian Ukrainians believe that no part of Ukraine belongs to Russia
They don't want to be part of a huge rusty fascist s***hole
Interesting polling results in that survey
F*** Uncle Sam
F*** Zelensky
F*** CCP
F*** Putin
F***ing all Uncle Sam and CCP want is for this Ukraine s*** to drag on to weaken their competition Russia.
F***in Zelensky is a puppet who is enabling it.
To top it up all of these c***s want f***ing religius fascists in charge in the most resourceful region of the planet so that they can take advantage of the instability in the mid east.
We are f***ed
Only way out is if they all f***ing crumble
I predict the Russians will grab whatever they can in the next 2 weeks, and settle for the new territory before May 9th victory day
They will have taken all of donbass, and the South Coast linking it to crimea
May the Putin regime burn
That land is Ukrainian and will only ever be Ukrainian
https://www.europeanleadershipnetwork.org/commentary/ukrainians-want-to-stay-and-fight-but-dont-see-russian-people-as-the-enemy-a-remarkable-poll-from-kyiv/
98% of Ukrainians and 82% of ethnic Russian Ukrainians believe that no part of Ukraine belongs to Russia
They don't want to be part of a huge rusty fascist s***hole
This poll is based on 1,000 people and it doesn’t provide any indication of where those 1000 are from
F*** Uncle Sam
F*** Zelensky
F*** CCP
F*** Putin
F***ing all Uncle Sam and CCP want is for this Ukraine s*** to drag on to weaken their competition Russia.
F***in Zelensky is a puppet who is enabling it.
To top it up all of these c***s want f***ing religius fascists in charge in the most resourceful region of the planet so that they can take advantage of the instability in the mid east.
We are f***ed
Only way out is if they all f***ing crumble
You just threw "CCP" in there just to be there huh
I predict the Russians will grab whatever they can in the next 2 weeks, and settle for the new territory before May 9th victory day
They will have taken all of donbass, and the South Coast linking it to crimea
May the Putin regime burn
That land is Ukrainian and will only ever be Ukrainian
while i'd say it's likely the situation ends with both sides claiming victory simultaneously (Russia claims Donbass, holds Crimea, says they were victorious in securing the territory, Ukraine claims they won because they ultimately repelled Russia from the capital or something), I do think it's legitimate worry to have that Ukraine (or other countries through Ukraine by proxy) try to extend the course of conflict due to either geopolitics or money