A little disorienting to hear about massive assaults, bombings, etc but then two tweets later oh there’s Bono and Jill Biden visiting Kiev

lmao that last page

if you think Russia inherited anything from the USSR you’ve gotta go skim a few more wiki articles

So bc they both denied a massacre they now are the exact same? Kindergarten logic

And no under Lenin the republics had a great deal more autonomy than during th me Russian empire, even during Stalin for some years although he later on would reverse the Soviet policy of indigenization, which i already talked about earlier itt

Political literacy of qanon mfs

let's just not put stalin out of the equation. stalin cult still a big thing in russia. yeah, many critisize him there, but there are hella people who see him as a hero despite the fact he tortured and killed their ancestors

criticizing lenin doesn't mean that much. he basically a terrorist, but they prefer to critisize him for other reasons like "creating ukraine" and other fictional s***. propaganda machine working at any circumstances. they still actively using ussr narratives and symbolic, especially in occupied ukranianian cities. and consider themselves the direct heir

that country is running by old people with ussr mentality, the f*** you talking about

wikipedia mfs implying that i know about ussr from wikipedia and calling me conspiracy theories fan

they both use same propaganda tactics and basically live in denial

to say lenin gave ukraine autonomy is literally admiting that you never heard about ukrainian history even on wikipedia

yeah, it's bad weather

so no war? all that grand declaration of war fearmongering bullshit was for nothing?

Lenin gave Ukraine more autonomy than there was under the Russian empire, it's on a continuun, yes I know it became part of a federal union instead of a federal union, but im not gonna keep going back and forth with you, i been pretty clear in my wording yet u keep misinterpreting and nothing good us gonna come out of this so why bother

Lmao people were either saying he was gonna declare victory or declare war, idk why people felt so sure of that none of the developments pointed towards that, people just wanna get their takes off tbh

that's just empty talks. russia only enhanced hidden mobilization

most russians are scared and not ready to war, even if they publicly support their so-called "special operation". total mobilization would be a mistake for putin right now, they need more time to prepare the ground for that

yoooooo

he didn't fight with azov

he was there as press

People who think you can just draw a straight line from the Russian empire, the USSR and Putin in terms of Russian chauvinism really don't know what they're talking about tbh. This is one of Lenin's final letters to the Communist party about national self-determination before he passed, compare that to Putin's speech where he said Lenin "created" Ukraine, and you can see why a Russian chauvinist like Putin has always had such disdain for Lenin:

"I suppose I have been very remiss with respect to the workers of Russia for not having intervened energetically and decisively enough in the notorious question of autonomisation, which, it appears, is officially called the question of the Soviet socialist republics.

When this question arose last summer, I was ill; and then in autumn I relied too much on my recovery and on the October and December plenary meetings giving me an opportunity of intervening in this question. However, I did not manage to attend the October Plenary Meeting (when this question came up) or the one in December, and so the question passed me by almost completely.

I have only had time for a talk with Comrade Dzerzhinsky, who came form the Caucasus and told me how this matter stood in Georgia. I have also managed to exchange a few words with Comrade Zinoviev and express my apprehensions on this matter. From what I was told by Comrade Dzerzhinsky, who was at the head of the commission sent by the C.C. to "investigate" the Georgian incident, I could only draw the greatest apprehensions. If matters had come to such a pass that Orjonikidze could go to the extreme of applying physical violence, as Comrade Dzerzhinsky informed me, we can imagine what a mess we have got ourselves into. Obviously the whole business of "autonomisation" was radically wrong and badly timed.

It is said that a united apparatus was needed. Where did that assurance come from? Did it not come from that same Russian apparatus which, as I pointed out in one of the preceding sections of my diary, we took over from tsarism and slightly anointed with Soviet oil?

There is no doubt that that measure should have been delayed somewhat until we could say that we vouched for our apparatus as our own. But now, we must, in all conscience, admit the contrary; the apparatus we call ours is, in fact, still quite alien to us; it is a bourgeois and tsarist hotch-potch and there has been no possibility of getting rid of it in the course of the past five years without the help of other countries and because we have been "busy" most of the time with military engagements and the fight against famine.

It is quite natural that in such circumstances the "freedom to secede from the union" by which we justify ourselves will be a mere scrap of paper, unable to defend the non-Russians from the onslaught of that really Russian man, the Great-Russian chauvinist, in substance a rascal and a tyrant, such as the typical Russian bureaucrat is. There is no doubt that the infinitesimal percentage of Soviet and sovietised workers will drown in that tide of chauvinistic Great-Russian riffraff like a fly in milk.

It is said in defence of this measure that the People's Commissariats directly concerned with national psychology and national education were set up as separate bodies. But there the question arises: can these People's Commissariats be made quite independent? and secondly: were we careful enough to take measures to provide the non-Russians with a real safeguard against the truly Russian bully? I do not think we took such measures although we could and should have done so.

I think that Stalin's haste and his infatuation with pure administration, together with his spite against the notorious "nationalist-socialism" Stalin critised the minority nations for not being "internationalist" because they did want to unite with Russia, played a fatal role here. In politics spite generally plays the basest of roles.

I also fear that Comrade Dzerzhinsky, who went to the Caucasus to investigate the "crime" of those "nationalist-socialists", distinguished himself there by his truly Russian frame of mind (it is common knowledge that people of other nationalities who have become Russified over-do this Russian frame of mind) and that the impartiality of his whole commission was typified well enough by Orgonikidze's "manhandling". I think that no provocation or even insult can justify such Russian manhandling and that Comrade Dzerzhinsky was inexcusably guilty in adopting a light-hearted attitude towards it.

For all the citizens in the Caucasus Orjonikidze was the authority. Orjonikidze had no right to display that irritability to which he and Dzerzhinsky referred. On the contrary, Orjonikidze should have behaved with a restraint which cannot be demanded of any ordinary citizen, still less of a man accused of a "political" crime. And, to tell the truth, those nationalist-socialists were citizens who were accused of a political crime, and the terms of the accusation were such that it could not be described otherwise.

Here we have an important question of principle: how is internationalism to be understood?"

Good

I Never Liked You

You keeping finding excuses for Stalin when it’s well known his regime mistreated Jews is sus, almost like far left and far right are exactly the same

almost like far left and far right are exactly the same

I'm not even denying that he mistreated jews, or that he was a russian chauvinist, just that "jewish conspiracy" undermining everything wasn't part of his ideology and that his actions were politically motivated, which is still a serious crime

You just have an agenda and are doing historical revisionism to find evidence for a meme theory of political ideologies, no serious academic historians, even western ones, like j arch getty hold your views

It's funny how one meme can f*** up the game

Nah thread derailed fr