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  • Jul 20, 2022
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    americana

    Given the official Soviet stance of being against anti semitism and them being fully aware of the death camps, I’d disagree

    State policy has f*** all to do with it

  • americana 📿
    Jul 20, 2022
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    Plankton

    State policy has f*** all to do with it

    I thought the Soviet Union was a repressive authoritarian state where state policy determines everyone’s lives

  • Jul 20, 2022
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    If states are too small to exist independent of help from larger countries those states should not exist

  • americana 📿
    Jul 20, 2022
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    Yuzzy

    If states are too small to exist independent of help from larger countries those states should not exist

    So imperialism did the right thing

  • Jul 20, 2022
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    americana

    I thought the Soviet Union was a repressive authoritarian state where state policy determines everyone’s lives

    You are so f***ing dense bro. My point is that Russian people are anti semitic in general, especially back then.

  • americana 📿
    Jul 20, 2022
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    Plankton

    You are so f***ing dense bro. My point is that Russian people are anti semitic in general, especially back then.

    And you think the Soviet leadership (which wasn’t antisemitic until Khrushchev, with sources) wasn’t aware of this attempted to reverse all notions of antisemitism?

  • Jul 20, 2022
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    americana

    And you think the Soviet leadership (which wasn’t antisemitic until Khrushchev, with sources) wasn’t aware of this attempted to reverse all notions of antisemitism?

    I think when the Red were raping and pillaging Berlin it had nothing to do with avenging the death camps

  • americana 📿
    Jul 20, 2022
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    Plankton

    I think when the Red were raping and pillaging Berlin it had nothing to do with avenging the death camps

    The Nazis had their own genocidal policy against slavic peoples

    It was quite literally a race war that didn’t only involve Jewish people.

  • americana 📿
    Jul 20, 2022
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    @plankton go read the Wikipedia article for “lebensraum” if you’re so inclined to be educated in your own manner

  • Jul 20, 2022
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    americana

    The Nazis had their own genocidal policy against slavic peoples

    It was quite literally a race war that didn’t only involve Jewish people.

    You’re doing the absolute most to avoid conceding a point that no reasonable person could refute

  • Jul 20, 2022
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    americana

    @plankton go read the Wikipedia article for “lebensraum” if you’re so inclined to be educated in your own manner

    Go read the wikipedia article for “The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion” if you think the Russians weren’t antisemitic af

  • americana 📿
    Jul 20, 2022
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    Plankton

    You’re doing the absolute most to avoid conceding a point that no reasonable person could refute

    What is the point being made here

  • Jul 20, 2022
    americana

    @plankton go read the Wikipedia article for “lebensraum” if you’re so inclined to be educated in your own manner

    Irrelevant to the point. You can’t even stay on topic, i’m starting to question your intelligence

  • Jul 20, 2022

    this is your brain on debates right here

  • Jul 20, 2022
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    americana

    So imperialism did the right thing

    No

  • americana 📿
    Jul 20, 2022
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    Yuzzy

    No

    The small states that needed larger states don’t exist though

    Palestine… African kingdoms … Native Americans…

  • Jul 20, 2022
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    americana

    What is the point being made here

    The point is that the Russians did what they did to the Germans because they are brutal invaders, not as revenge for the Holocaust. Europe has good reason to be afraid of Russian invasion.

  • americana 📿
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    Plankton

    The point is that the Russians did what they did to the Germans because they are brutal invaders, not as revenge for the Holocaust. Europe has good reason to be afraid of Russian invasion.

    Are you sure the SOVIETS (the red army wasn’t Russian) didn’t do that out of anger because the Nazi Germans literally had a policy point about using them as slaves for people who wanted to colonize Eastern Europe

  • Jul 20, 2022
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    americana

    The small states that needed larger states don’t exist though

    Palestine… African kingdoms … Native Americans…

    Shouldn't have happened. My point on this is pragmatic and based on the broader hypothesis that each state should act as an independent, and this is made impossible when they are not self sufficient. This forces them to accept money from larger countries and in exchange become extensions of those larger countries.

  • Jul 20, 2022
    Yuzzy

    Shouldn't have happened. My point on this is pragmatic and based on the broader hypothesis that each state should act as an independent, and this is made impossible when they are not self sufficient. This forces them to accept money from larger countries and in exchange become extensions of those larger countries.

    of all the hypotheses this is surely one of them ones my brother

  • Jul 20, 2022
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    americana

    Are you sure the SOVIETS (the red army wasn’t Russian) didn’t do that out of anger because the Nazi Germans literally had a policy point about using them as slaves for people who wanted to colonize Eastern Europe

    My original comment was in reference to the Russians in particular. I have no idea if Kazakhs are anti semitic or not.

    Maybe revenge for the slaughter of their fellow slavs, certainly not revenge for the Jews

  • americana 📿
    Jul 20, 2022
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    Plankton

    My original comment was in reference to the Russians in particular. I have no idea if Kazakhs are anti semitic or not.

    Maybe revenge for the slaughter of their fellow slavs, certainly not revenge for the Jews

    You have nooooo clue what you’re talking about

  • Modern day russia is extremely antisemitic

    Soviet Union was also pretty antisemitic but nowhere near the guys they beat

  • Jul 20, 2022
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    It doesn't matter if you've never been invaded by Russia. Rational countries don't want a fascist power run by a cognitive declining lunatic getting closer to them and their allies. As such they're taking steps to slow it down

  • Jul 20, 2022
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    americana

    You have nooooo clue what you’re talking about

    You're a moron. If you think Soviet troops gave a f*** about the Holocaust you are delusional