Russo-Ukrainian War

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    The Soviet union’s anti racist policies made themselves evident for droves of black peoples who traveled there from abroad

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    Plankton

    Yea, that's true. doesn't in anyway contradict what I said though

    When you take into account the Russians didn't have problem conscripting Jews into their army then you can bet a few of them specifically were fighting with the thought of the camps (or what they knew of the camps at that point anyways which was not a lot)

  • Jul 20, 2022
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    americana

    The state putting in policy that is anti racist eventually leads to a population that is also such.

    Delusional

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    TragedyBerlusconi

    Yeah all authoritarian regimes will culminate in atrocities

    Just some of them have atrocities as an end goal (nazism) instead of an unforeseen side effect (the soviet union)

    It’s a stated goal of socialists and communists to kill the rich

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    Plankton

    Delusional


    An account from the 1920’s

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    TragedyBerlusconi

    Soviets and Nazis were both f***ing awful but the latter were awful by design, the former were awful as a bug

    Nazi propaganda is so hateful it's pretty much unbearable to watch whereas Commie propaganda usually just fetishizes cows and farming and stuff to a hilarious degree (and could be quite beautiful) it's a more benign type of evil

    Then again Stalin himself seemed just as cold as Hitler with the way he would casually order the deaths of ten of thousands then millions of his own people. Like at least Hitler legitimately loved at least one contingency of his own people. Nobody was safe from Stalin's wrath of when he started getting paranoid.

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    Nazi propaganda is so hateful it's pretty much unbearable to watch whereas Commie propaganda usually just fetishizes cows and farming and stuff to a hilarious degree (and could be quite beautiful) it's a more benign type of evil

    Then again Stalin himself seemed just as cold as Hitler with the way he would casually order the deaths of ten of thousands then millions of his own people. Like at least Hitler legitimately loved at least one contingency of his own people. Nobody was safe from Stalin's wrath of when he started getting paranoid.

    I mean even Albert Einstein had support for the great purges

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    americana

    I mean even Albert Einstein had support for the great purges

    Scientists are not known for their empathy

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    americana


    An account from the 1920’s

    What does this have to do with anti semitism

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    Plankton

    What does this have to do with anti semitism

    It has to do with anti-racist policy

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    americana

    It has to do with anti-racist policy

    Anti semitism isn’t garden variety racism. These people think Jews run the world and drink baby blood

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    Elric

    Scientists are not known for their empathy

    I don’t think a lack of empathy is something criticize Stalin for in regards to the great purges

    The Soviet Union made massive strides in social development and quality of life in its infant years even through the the holodomor. I’d say it was pragmatically reasonable for people like Stalin to have protected the project from those who wanted a monarchy in place again

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    Nearly done this 22-hour documentary from 1973 called The World At War you guys should watch for the sheer amount of interviews with people from all sides and all walks of life Russian peasants to Nazi commanders giving their perspectives only a couple decades later, very fascinating.

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    Plankton

    Anti semitism isn’t garden variety racism. These people think Jews run the world and drink baby blood

    There isn’t any form of racism that is especially distinct from another

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    Elric

    Nearly done this 22-hour documentary from 1973 called The World At War you guys should watch for the sheer amount of interviews with people from all sides and all walks of life Russian peasants to Nazi commanders giving their perspectives only a couple decades later, very fascinating.

    Where can I watch

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    “Garden variety racism” is a disgusting term to use

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    americana

    There isn’t any form of racism that is especially distinct from another

    One, yes there is. Two, comparing anti-black racism in Russia to anti-semitism is stupid, since way more Jews than Black people have lived there

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    americana

    “Garden variety racism” is a disgusting term to use

    Disgusting not to acknowledge the special brand of bigotry jews are subjected to

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    americana

    Where can I watch

    Idk we pirate in Canada

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    Plankton

    One, yes there is. Two, comparing anti-black racism in Russia to anti-semitism is stupid, since way more Jews than Black people have lived there

    They all form from the same root causes and attack the material conditions that are unique to each “race.”

  • Jul 20, 2022
    Plankton

    Disgusting not to acknowledge the special brand of bigotry jews are subjected to

    Antisemitic bigotry is no more or less disgusting than all other forms of racism (they are all as disgusting as can be)

  • Jul 20, 2022
    Elric

    Idk we pirate in Canada

    Real as f***

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    americana

    I don’t think a lack of empathy is something criticize Stalin for in regards to the great purges

    The Soviet Union made massive strides in social development and quality of life in its infant years even through the the holodomor. I’d say it was pragmatically reasonable for people like Stalin to have protected the project from those who wanted a monarchy in place again

    Yes but the whole holodmor mainly happened because Stalin was pushing such an unrealistic schedule for the 5-year plan that he was going two steps backwards for every step forward and ended up turning everybody against him and Russia. A lot of Eastern Europe hated Stalin so much that they actually gladly welcome to the Nazi invaders when they first pushed East too bad the Nazis were too stupid to utilize the potential force they had there and just considered them subhuman slavs for the Holocaust

    The purges a little understandable but the holodmor was so brutal. And things like sending half of his returning soldiers to the gulags after World War II cause he didn't trust them after they got exposed to Western culture. Ice cold.

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    americana

    Never said when

    Ya I mean it's a push in that direction but I think most cases are more complex than Government says x bad so society stops believing x

  • Jul 20, 2022
    americana


    An account from the 1920’s

    I don't even disagree with your point but you and others always post this story like A there's any reason to believe it B a single incident in Moscow represents the whole of the SU