Russo-Ukrainian War

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  • Jul 23, 2022
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    Plankton

    F*** the "Russians" in the east. This war is about Ukraine

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    Plankton

    F*** the "Russians" in the east. This war is about Ukraine

    The overarching purpose war is about NATO and Russia asserting their geopolitical ambitions using Ukraine as a chessboard

    As non-Ukrainians, our government can use our support to further their own aims. Being critical of our support is the first thing we must do

    And using critical thinking, I can’t support western efforts in ukraine

  • Jul 23, 2022
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    Dude literally misusing ethnic cleansing all the f***ing time itt

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    Y0rn

    Dude literally misusing ethnic cleansing all the f***ing time itt

    Yeah and to call the Russian invasion ethnic cleansing is more ridiculous

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    americana

    Yeah and to call the Russian invasion ethnic cleansing is more ridiculous

    Than language laws?

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    Y0rn

    Than language laws?

    Yes … this isn’t really an ethnic war despite the ethnic pretense being used to justify it

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    americana

    The overarching purpose war is about NATO and Russia asserting their geopolitical ambitions using Ukraine as a chessboard

    As non-Ukrainians, our government can use our support to further their own aims. Being critical of our support is the first thing we must do

    And using critical thinking, I can’t support western efforts in ukraine

    Why? The West and NATO should win out over Russia, and if it helps Ukraine all the better.

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    americana

    Yes … this isn’t really an ethnic war despite the ethnic pretense being used to justify it

    To me y'all both purposely misuse terms. Difference is he's speaking of actual mass murder

  • Jul 23, 2022
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    Plankton

    Why? The West and NATO should win out over Russia, and if it helps Ukraine all the better.

    Their aim isn’t to “win out” the point is to create another decade long Afghanistan in Ukraine that will grind Russia out and destabilize them

    You know who gets put on the chopping block? Afghanistan

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    Y0rn

    To me y'all both purposely misuse terms. Difference is he's speaking of actual mass murder

    Are Russians just going around shooting civilians. I mean it’s war let’s not act like there’s not egregious actions being committed by both sides

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    americana

    Are Russians just going around shooting civilians. I mean it’s war let’s not act like there’s not egregious actions being committed by both sides

    Worse

  • Jul 23, 2022
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    Plankton

    Worse

    There’s already videos of Azovites doing the same to their own countrymen. War is hell, and as I’ve said neither side is the good one in this

    The only losers are the civilians

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    americana

    Are Russians just going around shooting civilians. I mean it’s war let’s not act like there’s not egregious actions being committed by both sides

    You forgot bout Bucha?

    Also, i know soldiers of any country don't speak of murder when they eliminate targets, but for me bombing civilians (purposely or not) is murder. And they been doing that a lot

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    americana

    Their aim isn’t to “win out” the point is to create another decade long Afghanistan in Ukraine that will grind Russia out and destabilize them

    You know who gets put on the chopping block? Afghanistan

    Choosing not to support Ukraine is just choosing to support Russia’s geopolitical interests. If I have to choose between Russia and the West of course any reasonable person would choose the West.

    Your 2nd point has no evidence for it. There’s no evidence that NATO/US is trying to prolong the war

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    Plankton

    Choosing not to support Ukraine is just choosing to support Russia’s geopolitical interests. If I have to choose between Russia and the West of course any reasonable person would choose the West.

    Your 2nd point has no evidence for it. There’s no evidence that NATO/US is trying to prolong the war

    Them freely providing arms to politically extremist militias with virtually no oversight is enough proof

    We all know full well that’s how you get another Iraq/Libya/Afghanistan/Nicaragua, and yet they are doing it again. Do you think it’s just another mistake being made or actual strategy?

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    americana

    Them freely providing arms to politically extremist militias with virtually no oversight is enough proof

    We all know full well that’s how you get another Iraq/Libya/Afghanistan/Nicaragua, and yet they are doing it again. Do you think it’s just another mistake being made or actual strategy?

    Those politically extremist militias are now fighting for freedom and democracy against fascist Russia.

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    Plankton

    Those politically extremist militias are now fighting for freedom and democracy against fascist Russia.

    Oh geez

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    Truly the friends of democracy

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    americana

    Their aim isn’t to “win out” the point is to create another decade long Afghanistan in Ukraine that will grind Russia out and destabilize them

    You know who gets put on the chopping block? Afghanistan

    While I see the similarities, there is a difference: the EU committed itself to Ukraine. I don't agree with that, since Ukraine is such a corrupt country and should change a lot before even being in consideration to join, but that happened. Ukraine won't end up like Afghanistan

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    Plankton

    Choosing not to support Ukraine is just choosing to support Russia’s geopolitical interests. If I have to choose between Russia and the West of course any reasonable person would choose the West.

    Your 2nd point has no evidence for it. There’s no evidence that NATO/US is trying to prolong the war

    What evidence would there be for that to you outside of an outright admission of guilt lmao

    Whatever the US and NATO says you believe

  • Jul 23, 2022
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    Y0rn

    While I see the similarities, there is a difference: the EU committed itself to Ukraine. I don't agree with that, since Ukraine is such a corrupt country and should change a lot before even being in consideration to join, but that happened. Ukraine won't end up like Afghanistan

    We will have to see

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    Y0rn

    While I see the similarities, there is a difference: the EU committed itself to Ukraine. I don't agree with that, since Ukraine is such a corrupt country and should change a lot before even being in consideration to join, but that happened. Ukraine won't end up like Afghanistan

    Lmao bro Afghanistan had a whole NATO invasion, there was definitely not a lack of investment into it

  • Jul 23, 2022
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    Scratchin Mamba

    Lmao bro Afghanistan had a whole NATO invasion, there was definitely not a lack of investment into it

    I remember when Obama made a speech condemning gaddhafi and committing NATO to “democracy in Libya”

    Yeah f***ing right

  • Jul 23, 2022
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    Lord of horseshit

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    Scratchin Mamba

    Lmao bro Afghanistan had a whole NATO invasion, there was definitely not a lack of investment into it

    There is a difference between the EU and NATO, and you know that

    Besides that, it's in Europe. You already see the difference in how refugees are treated

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