Bakhmut has been captured according to Wagner.

Ukraines denying per usual but It’s always hard for me to take that seriously at this point cus I’ve seen them deny for days/weeks when even Western media accepts things. Wagner/Russia doesn’t normally jump the gun when fully claiming control

There’s still the counterattack but that’s just on the flanks which is weirdly being reported like it’s inside the city.

the only viable counter argument to this is that the ukrainians are still hammering the flanks and could potentially envelope wagner inside bakhmut

not massively likely but plausible

This arguably isn’t what’s happening tho. We’re at the point of just naming fancier weapons to keep up the facade that we are still heavily committed

We obsessed for months over Leopard 2s and Challengers… what have they done? After months of waiting on Patriots they were implemented this month and one is already damaged. Abrahms aren’t coming this year and F16s wouldn’t be soon either. Stocking for the offensive hasn’t even worked cus now it’s delayed and Russia is bombing depots.

Ukraine doesn’t need fancy weapons to do their job they need a s*** ton of artillery and basic weapons. The issue is the needs are far more than we can produce. We lost the weapons attrition war so we need something else

Last thing that genuinely felt like it worked was HIMARS and even that now can be jammed by Russia

Yeah, but can't give away all the weapons meant for your own defense eh. Especially the smaller countries can't do that

Here goes NYT 4 minutes ago doing exactly what I was saying . They definitely saw the Wagner news and made sure to push this instead

theyre both correct- Wagner needs to claim it has captured the city (it has) in order to gain domestic popularity in Russia

NYT has to push the Ukrainian line that theyve folded the Russian military flanks (they have)

theyre both right and have their agendas, it's what comes next that is interesting

It’s about when it’s pushed. It’s confusing to people who’d want to know actual updates to see Ukraine has changed the momentum but then go to CNN and see they’ve lost the city. Prigozhin didn’t need to do it today

Unless Ukraine is willing to use their weapons and men meant for the counteroffensive to go on this run to regain Bakhmut they’re not going to find much success. It was unwise to fight this long anyways.

It’s easier to gain and lose on outside flanks than it is to actually be inside of the urban areas in Bakhmut fighting meter for meter. You surely can’t change the momentum from the outside either

Well, it just seems like the rhetoric doesn't match the actions. What are we on like the 7th sanction package being discussed? And Ukraine "must" win?

I guess the only viable defence of Ukraines choices in Bakhmut was that they bled Russian forces dry, which they did

so how many years until WW3

1? 2?

it ain't looking good

Would mean the end of the world

I just dont see how else it could turn out. This aint just the war in Ukrain. You can tell that humanity is in a dark place atm.

Nah most people just wanna live their life, that's not different from any time

Yeah we know people wanna live their life,

Doesn't stop warmongers from commiting war, lol.

If history has taught us anything, it's that times like this usually end up in a huge war.

Selenski going to G7 meetings like a make a wish child is hilarious

Doesnt mean 'humanity' is in a dark place tho

Define WW3

Paul Gascoigne has arrived in Belgorod claiming to be governor of the region

“The current goal of the western world is to weaken, divide, and eventually destroy our country” - Putin
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Putin tried to suck off NATO leaders for the majority of his career. Just when it became apparent that they won't let Russia be part of their colonial pact he became a nationalist. He's the same as the animals who lead NATO.

The purpose of NATO was to combat the Soviet Union. I'm not sure if you know what you’re talking about.

Why do you care about what politicians say? You believe in fairies too? It's organized military for conquering cheap resources and labor.

Ukrainian counter offensive may have begun now for real. maybe, maybe not

in any case, let’s please avoid sharing intel, pictures or leaked comms that could betray ukrainian troop positions. they deserve the best chance to defeat fascist

Yeah man I’m sure it’s a lot of intel out there the Russians would have no idea about if someone didn’t post it on KTT

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