I understand their "denazification" or whatever even if part illogical but I dont see the point in denazifying anything while purposefully killing civilians and committing war crimes but again this isnt new from America to Israel to Saudi Arabia.

Not genocide, “denazification” is just the ideological justification for the post-war purge/arrests of pro-Western/anti-Russian elements from the government and military

Also do not tell again how this is all because of a US back coup in 2014, y'all are quick to point fingers away from the present bully, did the coupe happen in Russia?

Why do you think the coup was so successful? Forget about the USA, have y'all for a single second thought about what the Ukrainian people want, maybe they don't wanna end up like Belarus

Y'all are like a horse with blinders looking at 1 direction

Bernie Mad funny cause that happened February 9th. Dissing Putin for being a Billionaire who cares primarily about himself over the lives, human rights and well being of others clearly doesn't bother Putin. He again anticipated the sanctions as did basically everyone in a way. Even if it puts America in a tough spot inflation wise. Which we already are.

America/ Biden will talk slowly about "gas prices will rise but you will be okay we are doing the right thing" while not really addressing the poverty and inflation that existed even before they got all this s*** popping. What would help inflation and American people still reeling from a pandemic? Lowering the police and military budget both of which in now way cares to lower or redirect into resources to make our country better. We aren't sanctioned but s*** in some ways we might as well be because we suffer because our country is represented by imbeciles.

Good luck to Biden at the State of the Union next week cause War or no war we are in a mess

Putin is a mad man and this is happening because of him, his chief spy is shaking talking to him...

Ukraine was never a threat to Russia because their people see each other as a brotherly nation

no one is saying it is all USA fault in this thread

My bad I didn't mean all but there were definitely users itt who said it's USA fault

Bro, do you sleep?

lol at work. Again oil and gas. I got 40 minutes left. Didnt sleep much yesterday though cause all this was going on then gymed, grocery shopped and ran errands to get stuff done. Today I am going to fully KO. when you are on 12 hour shifts alternating days and nights if your brain is awake you got to use that energy when you off.

I more mean currently lol they gonna wake up in like 3 hours and we gonna be like 10 pages ahead and they not seeing that post

But yes the thread has people saying

1. Its all Putins fault
2. Its Nazi Ukranians fault
3. Its Americas fault
4. Swirl mixtures
5. It was inevitable
6. Nord pipeline
7. PUTING GONNA LAUNCH A NUKE OH NO
8. SO YOU SAYING YOU WANT AMERICA TO INVADE
9. WAR CRIMINALS GONNA WAR CRIMINAL
10. THATS A SHAME BUT I RATHER NOT THINK OF IT will be inconsequential in a year

I am more saying you dont always have to respond to everyone you disagree with or convince them of your point on this forum whether it be art or war. The information is out there for someone to confirm their bias or have nuance

I don't have to convince anyone

Putin is literally showing it to us, if people don't wanna see it it's on them

Yeah its wrapping up

Some of y'all are combatting this while others are like

Ukraine isn’t going to stop fighting

My point was never in support of the US

I am speaking about the intrest of the Ukrainian people and safety of Europe

It is very telling that every single nation in Europe, even Russias allies like Serbia are supporting Ukraine

#putinisawarcriminal

I was more just saying for some when they say "America is to blame" they partially mean the cycle of establishing imperialism to be a super power. I am not saying those in favor of Ukraine are Neo Nazis or support them. It takes more nuance than that to say any entire military is Nazis or hyper nationalism and Citizens both in Ukraine and Russia deserve love. I have mainly been discussing refugee options the entire thread