Vega

4y

every country got right wing nazis my guy, you don't label an entire country off a group of some

Smacked Voodoo

4y

I feel like you severely missed the point of what I posted, and frankly that ain't my problem.

Smacked Voodoo

4y

So I just want something clarified to me. It's wrong to call out Ukrainian "Neo-Nazis", the groups of Ukrainians who have been vehemently against the Muslim citizens in Ukraine and actively violent towards them, because it is...racist towards them?

I only ask because of this stupid ass tweet I just saw.

Frankito Reynolds

4y

These KTT Qutbists are braindead bro.

ModerateDrakeFan

4y

i think putin should defeat the american nazis attacking russian citizens too personally

math fifty

4y

How you run over ya own mans in a tank

fun guy

4y

Don’t think its fair to say that the Ukrainian government is “literally” run by Nazi’s, but there is a serious ultra nationalist/far-right/neo-Nazi presence in Ukraine that's being disingenuously overlooked by most liberals. This isn’t “Russian propaganda”, Western media outlets have frequently criticized Ukraine for this in years prior.

Excerpt from the Nation: “Post-Maidan Ukraine is the world’s only nation to have a neo-Nazi formation in its armed forces. The Azov Battalion was initially formed out of the neo-Nazi gang Patriot of Ukraine. Andriy Biletsky, the gang’s leader who became Azov’s commander, once wrote that Ukraine’s mission is to “lead the White Races of the world in a final crusade…against the Semite-led Untermenschen.” Biletsky is now a deputy in Ukraine’s parliament.”

Human Right Watch: “Since the beginning of 2018, members of radical groups such as C14, Right Sector, Traditsii i Poryadok (Traditions and Order), Karpatska Sich and others have carried out at least two dozen violent attacks, threats, or instances of intimidation in Kyiv, Vinnitsa, Uzhgorod, Lviv, Chernivtsi, Ivano-Frankivsk, and other Ukrainian cities. Law enforcement authorities have rarely opened investigations. In the cases in which they did, there is no indication that authorities took effective investigative measures to identify the attackers, even in cases in which the assailants publicly claimed responsibility on social media”.

Ukraine introduced a National Holiday to commemorate Nazi collaborater and war criminal Stepan Bandera. There is an entire Wikipedia section dedicated to monuments of this guy in Ukraine and there's plenty of streets in his name as well. Here he is being honoured by thousands of nationalists:

They also celebrate the Ukranian Insrugent Army (UPA), a genocidal far right military group that committed ethnic cleansing against tens of thousands of Polish people during WW2.

Far right vigilants have attacked Jewish people, women's marches, LGBTQ activists, and have burnt down Romani camps then chased their children down with axes. Here’s some footage of them in the aftermath begging for police to help:

Every year, there's a neo-Nazi metal concert hosted in Ukraine called Asgardsrei, where Nazi scum from all over Europe flock to so they can openly tout Nazi flags, symbols, salutes, etc., this s*** is so crazy.

According to a report from Israel (lol), there were more anti-Semitic attacks (130+) in Ukraine in 2017 than in all other former USSR countries combined.

The normal reaction from any respectable government would be to harshly condemn/combat/ostracize these Nazi f***s. Instead, the Ukrainian government has embraced them, and has integrated some of them into their military and political body; most famous is the Azov Battalion's integration into Ukraine's National Guard. That’s not all though: here’s a good piece from 2014 describing some Nazis and ultra nationalists who have been integrated into Ukraine's political body following Euromaidan.

Ukraine can defend itself while also condemning Nazism, the two aren’t mutually exclusive. I still think Russia’s in the wrong in this scenario and don’t support them. But sending tens of millions of dollars in weapons/military aid to Ukraine, when it could very well end up in the hands of far right nationalists and neo-Nazi’s is risky business to say the least. People should definitely be aware of who this aid might be going to, and for f***s sake, liberals need to stop making excuses for Nazism.

math fifty

4y

Russians mustve trained by playing Arma

ARCADE GOON

4y

You claimed Russia attacked Ukraine to prevent a lawsuit of Ukraine versus Iran, shut the f*** up you schizophrenic shah cuck

fun guy

4y

Don’t think its fair to say that the Ukrainian government is “literally” run by Nazi’s, but there is a serious ultra nationalist/far-right/neo-Nazi presence in Ukraine that's being disingenuously overlooked by most liberals. This isn’t “Russian propaganda”, Western media outlets have frequently criticized Ukraine for this in years prior.

Excerpt from the Nation: “Post-Maidan Ukraine is the world’s only nation to have a neo-Nazi formation in its armed forces. The Azov Battalion was initially formed out of the neo-Nazi gang Patriot of Ukraine. Andriy Biletsky, the gang’s leader who became Azov’s commander, once wrote that Ukraine’s mission is to “lead the White Races of the world in a final crusade…against the Semite-led Untermenschen.” Biletsky is now a deputy in Ukraine’s parliament.”

Human Right Watch: “Since the beginning of 2018, members of radical groups such as C14, Right Sector, Traditsii i Poryadok (Traditions and Order), Karpatska Sich and others have carried out at least two dozen violent attacks, threats, or instances of intimidation in Kyiv, Vinnitsa, Uzhgorod, Lviv, Chernivtsi, Ivano-Frankivsk, and other Ukrainian cities. Law enforcement authorities have rarely opened investigations. In the cases in which they did, there is no indication that authorities took effective investigative measures to identify the attackers, even in cases in which the assailants publicly claimed responsibility on social media”.

Ukraine introduced a National Holiday to commemorate Nazi collaborater and war criminal Stepan Bandera. There is an entire Wikipedia section dedicated to monuments of this guy in Ukraine and there's plenty of streets in his name as well. Here he is being honoured by thousands of nationalists:

They also celebrate the Ukranian Insrugent Army (UPA), a genocidal far right military group that committed ethnic cleansing against tens of thousands of Polish people during WW2.

Far right vigilants have attacked Jewish people, women's marches, LGBTQ activists, and have burnt down Romani camps then chased their children down with axes. Here’s some footage of them in the aftermath begging for police to help:

Every year, there's a neo-Nazi metal concert hosted in Ukraine called Asgardsrei, where Nazi scum from all over Europe flock to so they can openly tout Nazi flags, symbols, salutes, etc., this s*** is so crazy.

According to a report from Israel (lol), there were more anti-Semitic attacks (130+) in Ukraine in 2017 than in all other former USSR countries combined.

The normal reaction from any respectable government would be to harshly condemn/combat/ostracize these Nazi f***s. Instead, the Ukrainian government has embraced them, and has integrated some of them into their military and political body; most famous is the Azov Battalion's integration into Ukraine's National Guard. That’s not all though: here’s a good piece from 2014 describing some Nazis and ultra nationalists who have been integrated into Ukraine's political body following Euromaidan.

Ukraine can defend itself while also condemning Nazism, the two aren’t mutually exclusive. I still think Russia’s in the wrong in this scenario and don’t support them. But sending tens of millions of dollars in weapons/military aid to Ukraine, when it could very well end up in the hands of far right nationalists and neo-Nazi’s is risky business to say the least. People should definitely be aware of who this aid might be going to, and for f***s sake, liberals need to stop making excuses for Nazism.

math fifty

4y

But the Russians arent killing Nazis

Theyre killing civillians

As long as theyre killing civillians none of that other s*** matters

math fifty

4y

if neo nazis in govt was enough to justify an invasion we'd all be speaking canadian rn

ARCADE GOON

4y

B-b-but media told me Azov soldiers are friendly liberals

Moscato

4y

You really think Canada can ever successfully invade America?

Frankito Reynolds

4y

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That was a joke u dumb f***.

I said this

The Ayatollah in Iran missiled down a ukranian passenger plane full of iranians going to canada.
Ukraine was gonna sue their ass so last month when Raeisi l(iran president) met Putin he asked him for a favor.

Highly unlikely but strangely plausible

You don't get the joke?

@Gojira 😆