ive denounced the invasion numerous times itt
what im saying is Putin's frustrations arent unfounded but hes handling it in the worst way
the only innocents in this situation are the civillians. both govts are wrong
People are being idiots
America launched 2 just to show off to the USSR
Nuclear disarmament only happening in MGSV so in reality you can’t just be mad and propagate s*** against people when push comes to shove they using the nuke they paid for that no defense system going to stop . When trump had covid America flashed the nukes as “ even if he dies don’t play with us”
Wrong. There’s ideological bases for cooperation and then there’s pragmatic ones. China and Russia are pragmatic Allie’s. The G7 is ideological and pragmatic
Half of the g7 is former facist countries that lost in ww2 and were forced out of being how they were lol its all pragmatic at the end of the day
WE TRIED and you called us words for sucking up to Putin
The opposite putin tried to get closer to europe in the 00s and in return nato started expanding
ive denounced the invasion numerous times itt
what im saying is Putin's frustrations arent unfounded but hes handling it in the worst way
the only innocents in this situation are the civillians. both govts are wrong
Maybe if you’re a high schooler that’s the big reason. That reason is underlaid by the reason I just pointed out
Not you going to juvenile insults lmao
I think it’s my own naive assumption that no one would actually follow through on it after America’s war crimes in WWII that is causing my brain to break rn
They don’t believe it’s war crimes. Most American schools teach us the ole “the Japanese would’ve fought to the death” shtick
ive denounced the invasion numerous times itt
what im saying is Putin's frustrations arent unfounded but hes handling it in the worst way
the only innocents in this situation are the civillians. both govts are wrong
Wym denounced the invasion? Thats not a point man youre going on and on about how bad the Nato is when its literally the only reason half of europe feels relative safe rn
Not you going to juvenile insults lmao
Fam this is clearly not an ethnic conflict that has to do with “Russia seeing Ukraine as not a country.” There’s no ambition for annexation and it’s not even practical to annex it. Russian troops arent walking through villages exterminating normal people
This is about puppeting and control for the sake of maintaining economic and political influence
I think it’s my own naive assumption that no one would actually follow through on it after America’s war crimes in WWII that is causing my brain to break rn
There is no reason not to . Shame ? A trial of Nuremberg ? A Geneva convention ? Who cares in their mind
Fam this is clearly not an ethnic conflict that has to do with “Russia seeing Ukraine as not a country.” There’s no ambition for annexation and it’s not even practical to annex it. Russian troops arent walking through villages exterminating normal people
This is about puppeting and control for the sake of maintaining economic and political influence
They don’t believe it’s war crimes. Most American schools teach us the ole “the Japanese would’ve fought to the death” shtick
It’s def what I was taught and had to unlearn myself tbh. Half this thread is lying to themselves if they don’t think they did too
People acting like Russians killing every Ukrainian they pass. They are indiscriminately bombing but that’s not new to our modern “ wars “
Wym denounced the invasion? Thats not a point man youre going on and on about how bad the Nato is when its literally the only reason half of europe feels relative safe rn
Once again
Why is there a danger in Europe again after the NATO forces dismantledthe USSR? Why didn’t we rebuild and reintegrate the Russians in the 1990’s ?
You didn’t give me a real answer
There is no reason not to . Shame ? A trial of Nuremberg ? A Geneva convention ? Who cares in their mind
You’d think nuclear holocaust would be enough but that assumes that these leaders aren’t f***ing sociopaths
How else are they supposed to protect themselves against the russian army, their military cant handle it.
they're civilians they shouldn't be defending anybody from anything
The UN is useless when there are 3 world military superpowers that cant be stopped without invoking world war and nukes lol
Man cant you think from the perspective of the Ukrain for 5 seconds?
You want them to go like „nah bruh f*** Nato yall would just use us“ when their neighbour is literally killing and bombing them rn?
thank you.
They don’t believe it’s war crimes. Most American schools teach us the ole “the Japanese would’ve fought to the death” shtick
“ but the rape of Nanking you only think Japan is kind because of anime they are evil racist devils and they deserved it “
Wym denounced the invasion? Thats not a point man youre going on and on about how bad the Nato is when its literally the only reason half of europe feels relative safe rn
"half of europe feels safe rn"
lmao
everything was fine until the western backed coups in Ukraine back in 2014. that doesnt have s*** to do with NATO
Fam this is clearly not an ethnic conflict that has to do with “Russia seeing Ukraine as not a country.” There’s no ambition for annexation and it’s not even practical to annex it. Russian troops arent walking through villages exterminating normal people
This is about puppeting and control for the sake of maintaining economic and political influence
I agree with you but your head is too f***ing big to acknowledge that this also a reason. We know it's not the biggest reason but reason nonetheless
It’s def what I was taught and had to unlearn myself tbh. Half this thread is lying to themselves if they don’t think they did too
its kinda crazy we were all taught that
the truth is we had an experimental weapon and used it for revenge without any regard for innocent people