Update: talks are off, if they were ever on
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/world/europe/sergey-lavrov-ukraine-talks.html
Very shocking!!
Update: talks are off, if they were ever on
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/world/europe/sergey-lavrov-ukraine-talks.html
and Putin literally said that in his speach
Russia has been doing this for 500 years.
Russia has been doing this for 500 years.
Absolutely.
like what has to be said and shows to you big brains itt to get it?
Update: talks are off, if they were ever on
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/world/europe/sergey-lavrov-ukraine-talks.html
New York Times crazy for having a paywall
What the hell is Russia doing man, they've never played a strategy game in their life
Dumbasses
looks like ukraine is actually doing a good job defending itself
definitely better than expected but it’s been two days, barely long enough to drive across the entire country. Russia has made sizable gains, most people just don’t understand the geographic scale or how warfare actually works
What the hell is Russia doing man, they've never played a strategy game in their life
Dumbasses
the motivation and moral to defend you country is much higher than invading it
I don't think many of those Russians in the army want this war themselves
like what has to be said and shows to you big brains itt to get it?
Nigga chill . We have said Putins actions are deplorable
No. Russian troops shouldnt be on Ukrainian soil. If you disagree just say that
You people are desperate for tankies to exist.
looks like ukraine is actually doing a good job defending itself
Laying siege is always substantially more difficult than holding a position. Especially when one side is fighting for its homeland
Russia is the king of propaganda
There are literally dozens of articles and videos made by mutiple media outlets from different countries warning people about the neo-nazis in Ukraine. This was already a major issue way before Putin said it.
definitely better than expected but it’s been two days, barely long enough to drive across the entire country. Russia has made sizable gains, most people just don’t understand the geographic scale or how warfare actually works
Thank you
New York Times crazy for having a paywall
the news you need is locked away while the disinfo is free to read
oh idk, maybe weapons allow them to defend themselves?
also you are again shifting from the topic I only said NATO was more democratic than Russia which in Eastern Europe is the case, also unlike Russia, NATO hasn't invaded any of the Eastern countries so by what logic do you think those people aligned themselves
and again history plays a part, Russia's track record in that region is far worse than NATOs, they weren't an aggressor after WW2 because all of those countries were already in the eastern bloc but after the fall that wasn't guaranteed, look at what Putin is saying and doing look at what the rest of the world is and we can see who was right
you can't twist s*** unless your are suggesting that most of Ukraine are Nazis? Which then makes Russia a bigger democracy? like they don't have any far right extremists? Which is not true, that's why you can't twist it because if it was true the whole world wouldn't be supporting Nazis
ok so what is your suggestion then, explain it to me you obviously don't want to aid Ukraine but Russia is going to attack them regardless, so what is the plan here?
What does more Ukrainians defending themselves mean? More deaths. It’s that simple. I want less deaths. And shipping weapons doesn’t lead to less deaths on either die if it’s going to make the war last longer
Realistically the course of action that I’d most prefer is for leftist or pro western democratic organizations in Russia to use this chaos to organize a growing base and oppose the government. The army’s already rife with reluctancy to fight a foreign war, imagine their own citizens
Meanwhile in ukraine, a Russian puppet government would be wildly unpopular and unstable, so letting them come in and letting it collapse through instability or even insurgency while the Russians are away would be a way better course of action than making an open war last longer and get bloodier
And remember that this solution is off the top of my head and I’m not applying any moral or ideal standards. This is simply the path that is simultaneously realistic and as nonviolent as possible while still being achievable
Update: talks are off, if they were ever on
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/25/world/europe/sergey-lavrov-ukraine-talks.html
i wish there was a time on this article, it is also mentioning outdated information within it, which makes me believe it could be before the more recent talks of meeting
the news you need is locked away while the disinfo is free to read
Then they get mad at conspiracy theorist
the motivation and moral to defend you country is much higher than invading it
I don't think many of those Russians in the army want this war themselves
I know, I'm just s***posting, don't mind me
“We are ready for talks at any moment, as soon as the Ukrainian Armed Forces answer the call of our president to stop their resistance and put down their arms,” Mr. Lavrov said.
Our president sounding very mein fuhrer esque
Don’t be mad at people asking questions to learn more while at the same time don’t talk down to people who are well versed in this topic and didn’t just start learning about it this week
Nigga chill . We have said Putins actions are deplorable
ok
Then they get mad at conspiracy theorist
They only are trying to cater to elite, wealthy east coast liberals so they don’t really care about this.
The people who actually need information like this are too poor for them to target, that’s why they have separate news outlets for them lol.
It’s all a media game.