Russo-Ukrainian War

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  • Feb 26, 2022
    frenchpress

    it’s not a controversial opinion what i’m wondering is how does that opinion square with the opinion that russia invading is wrong

    cus i don’t get what the mental conclusion is if you simultaneously think that it’s wrong for ukraine to be invaded but also that it’s wrong for them to receive help defending themselves

  • Feb 26, 2022
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    americana

    Giving a country weapons that it will eventually give to Nazis for the sake of defending themselves in a war they can’t really win militarily is kinda illogical

    Nazis receiving those weapons and being able to possess/distribute/use them at their own desire does nothing achieving long lasting peace and equality in the region

    The Azov battalion is one of the closest units to the Russian majority Donbass region. Let’s say they’re able to push their way into the Russian centers with these newfound weapons. What do you think the course of action would be when Nazis find themselves in an area with the ethnicity of their invaders?

    ok so no weapons bc no peace and potential bad consequences in the future, but does that mean the present ukrainians should just surrender/lose/die? like that’s the part i don’t get. if russia is wrong to invade them, but it’s also wrong to support ukraine while they’re being invaded, then the stance appears to just be “whatever happens happens”

  • Feb 26, 2022
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    fun guy

    fr if Nazi sympathizers are such a small minority, why the f*** can't they just remove them from their ranks?

    it's too late now. but this conflict didn't arise out of nowhere, they had 8 f***ing years! 8 years of even the West/EU condemning Ukraine's government for sympathizing with Nazis yet they literally did jack s*** to resolve the issue and instead embraced Nazi sympathizers.

    The West has fumbled this entire situation so hard and hopefully revionists don't forget this. It's a lose lose no matter what, as if sending a billion dollars worth of aid now is gonna do anything but increase the number of casualties while also potentially arming violent far-right militias, who aren't gonna just disappear after the war

    So because of the 1000 "nazis" who have no political powerr we cant help the country of 44 million? I hope you keep this energy for everything.

  • Feb 26, 2022
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    nice to see we're still on the nazi stuff

  • Feb 26, 2022
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    americana

    Giving a country weapons that it will eventually give to Nazis for the sake of defending themselves in a war they can’t really win militarily is kinda illogical

    Nazis receiving those weapons and being able to possess/distribute/use them at their own desire does nothing achieving long lasting peace and equality in the region

    The Azov battalion is one of the closest units to the Russian majority Donbass region. Let’s say they’re able to push their way into the Russian centers with these newfound weapons. What do you think the course of action would be when Nazis find themselves in an area with the ethnicity of their invaders?

    stop with this nazi bs please

  • Feb 26, 2022
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    frenchpress

    ok so no weapons bc no peace and potential bad consequences in the future, but does that mean the present ukrainians should just surrender/lose/die? like that’s the part i don’t get. if russia is wrong to invade them, but it’s also wrong to support ukraine while they’re being invaded, then the stance appears to just be “whatever happens happens”

    Open talks for a neutrality agreement, the West doesn't want that tho, they want a Western aligned Ukraine at all cost.

  • Feb 26, 2022
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    Scratchin Mamba

    Open talks for a neutrality agreement, the West doesn't want that tho, they want a Western aligned Ukraine at all cost.

    Russia doesn’t want a neutral Ukraine either, though.

    Neither side is coming to the table with good intentions.

  • Feb 26, 2022
    blonded

    nice to see we're still on the nazi stuff

    Again it's only bc ppl say we wrong for opposing the arming of nazis

    You cool with arming azov Battalion?

  • Feb 26, 2022
    frenchpress

    ok so no weapons bc no peace and potential bad consequences in the future, but does that mean the present ukrainians should just surrender/lose/die? like that’s the part i don’t get. if russia is wrong to invade them, but it’s also wrong to support ukraine while they’re being invaded, then the stance appears to just be “whatever happens happens”

    Realistically the course that leads to the least deaths is literally Ukraine “losing” and then Russia literally collapsing from the economic pressure that created these conditions

    How do you expect the Russians to occupy the entire country when they’re as popular as can be right now?

    Reminder that I don’t care for immaterial terms like “winning” or “freedom” etc. I don’t want people dead and I don’t want armed Nazis

  • Global superpowers with s***ty foreign policies really can't point fingers now

  • Feb 26, 2022
    jack johnson

    stop with this nazi bs please

    “Nazi BS” is BS in itself

  • Feb 26, 2022
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    Joe Jigga Biden

    Russia doesn’t want a neutral Ukraine either, though.

    Neither side is coming to the table with good intentions.

    Well they've shown willingness to accept a neutral Ukraine, unlike the West.

  • Feb 26, 2022
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    Scratchin Mamba

    Open talks for a neutrality agreement, the West doesn't want that tho, they want a Western aligned Ukraine at all cost.

    there will never be neutrality, either from russian or western influence

  • Feb 26, 2022
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    Scratchin Mamba

    Well they've shown willingness to accept a neutral Ukraine, unlike the West.

    what do you mean with shown

  • Feb 26, 2022
    Super Mario

    there will never be neutrality, either from russian or western influence

    Well we'll never know bc the west closed the door for that

  • Feb 26, 2022
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    Super Mario

    there will never be neutrality, either from russian or western influence

    And yet its the one sensible way forward

  • Feb 26, 2022
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    Dedication 666

    So because of the 1000 "nazis" who have no political powerr we cant help the country of 44 million? I hope you keep this energy for everything.

    learn reading comprehension

    touch grass

  • Feb 26, 2022
    americana
    https://twitter.com/vicktop55/status/1497641709173358592

    Does anyone know if this is true?

    That's scary asf.

    Dudes sitting there bumping music trying to be casual and he literally pulls up to an execution

  • Feb 26, 2022
    CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

    And yet its the one sensible way forward

    of course but none of the parties will allow that

    ukraine is too important in terms of geopolitics

  • Feb 26, 2022
    americana
    https://twitter.com/vicktop55/status/1497641709173358592

    Does anyone know if this is true?

    wtf

  • Feb 26, 2022
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    fun guy

    learn reading comprehension

    touch grass

    go start a family bozo

  • Feb 26, 2022
    fun guy

    learn reading comprehension

    touch grass

    Pathetic

  • Feb 26, 2022
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    Dedication 666

    So because of the 1000 "nazis" who have no political powerr we cant help the country of 44 million? I hope you keep this energy for everything.

    Ah yes every single Nazi and pro-nazi person in Ukraine is concentrated in a single 1000 person battalion

  • Feb 26, 2022
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    this might seem crazy but do y’all think that Putin/Russia could just start firing the nuclear nukes if they get cornered?

    this whole thing doesn’t sit right with me…

  • Feb 26, 2022
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    wouldn’t the best solution be to arm Ukrainian soldiers under the condition that they don’t arm the 1000 or so Nazis?