bigbelts

4y

So then it's not relevant lol

fun guy

4y

his threats to Finland and Sweden seemed like empty threats just for intimidation tbh, there's no way Russia is that stupid or that Russian officials would ok that

thats like woat case scenario and at that point doesnt seem like there would be any way to prevent numerous diff countries getting involved and escalating into something way worse

also, can aid alone prevent Russia from taking Ukraine? not so sure bout that

fun guy

4y

governments not caring about arming the far right doesn't mean that we don't have to care lol

bigbelts

4y

So then it's not relevant lol

americana

4y

that is not how the Americans looked at this in the 1980’s and I don’t think you even know what mujahideen means

Mujahideen is just a word for “people engaging in jihad.” It was a catch all for the numerous anti communist militias across Afghanistan. The US basically threw money at the Pakistani ISI and said “hey, send money to who you want. They’re fighting the Commies so we’ll just spin them all as freedom fighters.” No questions asked.

And the ISI did just that. They sent money to regional warlords of all shapes sizes and ethnicities. My moms grand uncle was a massive warlord in Qandahar who fought the Russians. They sent money to Pashtun nationalists and non Pashtuns. They also sent money to pan-Islamist militias like those established by CIA asset Osama bin Laden. The militias were nothing in comparison to the warlords in terms of power and influence but they attracted members from all over the Muslim world. And look how it turned out in the long run for them. They became a major factor in Afghan politics because they had the ideological objective to do such that superseded the immediate goals of these warlords looking to protect their villages and provinces

And the mujahid were not United at all. There was infighting. There was ethnic cleansing. There were massacres, nothing that had been happening stopped unless there were communists there.

What’s different between that and the US throwing weapons at the Ukrainian government, saying they’ll spin everyone as a freedom fighter, and then sitting back and putting their feet up?

americana

4y

It’s relevant in the case of forming your own independent opinion and wondering if this was the right thing to do. Or are you just a parrot?

bigbelts

4y

Oh i agree. You have every right to discuss it. But it also not relevant lol

bigbelts

4y

You can't call me a parrot when you have been in here for 72 hours repeating the same s*** over and over

fun guy

4y

we live in democracies right? if enough people talk about, won't the government have to care about it?

americana

4y

Yeah fam let me just reform my entire worldview over 72 hours for diversities sake. At least mine isn’t dictated by what my government does like you.

TragedyBerlusconi

4y

I respect this knowledge and see what you mean so sorry for my ignorance

Even so, proportionally nazis are so much smaller in number, the risk seems lower. Also this is sending arms to a government with democratic legitimacy and the backing of most of the population. Not scattered independent groups.

TragedyBerlusconi

4y

I respect this knowledge and see what you mean so sorry for my ignorance

Even so, proportionally nazis are so much smaller in number, the risk seems lower. Also this is sending arms to a government with democratic legitimacy and the backing of most of the population. Not scattered independent groups.

Scratchin Mamba

4y

Isn't Sibghatullah Mojaddedi pro-western and against Islamic fundamentalism?? They not Wahhabists, why believe Brezhnev?

addja

4y

lol what, so u support soviet invasion of afghanistan and russia invasion of ukraine??

americana

4y

It’s relevant in the case of forming your own independent opinion and wondering if this was the right thing to do. Or are you just a parrot?